I know what you're gonna say, but I want to hear you say it out loud. Oh, no. What competes in your life for Jesus?

Like more important than Jesus. What is the biggest competitor to Jesus being the most important person?

Oh, when is that me?

I said that on purpose. What do you think I'm gonna think of? You're gonna say grandkids. Yeah, that is. And before that, it was probably kids.

Yeah, why isn't it me?

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I want it to be me. It's only somebody else. It's just they're more demanding, but you are always at the top.

Whatever. You're just... What's yours? What competes with you? What do you think it is? Golf. Golf. It's not golf.

If I was good at being golf. Softball. Softball. tennis. tennis. Sounds like all I do is play. What is yours?

I thought stuff. Stuff and comfort. Anyway, why are we talking about this? We have Lisa Whittle in the studio.

She wrote a book called Jesus over everything. Lisa, welcome to Family Life today. We're so glad you're here.

Thank you. I'm glad to be here. Lisa, we need you.

The subtitles call uncomplicating the daily struggle to put Jesus first. I mean, we hear that. We think,

well, I want to know your stuff. We sort of bear it hard ourselves.

That's right. Lay it down. Family would be mine for sure. That is at the top.

You're like your husband and your fate.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. So you're saying your husband is buried. Now you're making me look at him.

No, no, no, it's kids. My husband would definitely say, oh, let's be real here. It's the kids.

Hey, your husband's not here. What's his?

Oh, his would probably be stuff, you know, yeah, he likes gadgets and things like that. Electronic

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