I'm Natalie Moore. I fell in love with soap operas when I was just five years old, and I still

watch them. Their television's longest scripted series and have zero reruns. Now let me tell you,

soap operas aren't just some silly art form. They are significant. In this season of making,

Stories Without End from WB EZ Chicago.

Join me as I share how the genre began, their social impact, and why these stories endure.

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From WBEZ Chicago, this is Nerdad.

I'm Greta Johnson. We did it. We made it to another weekend. Coming up, Cooking Queen, Sola L. Waley, tells us about her new cookbook and the idea of embracing failure when cooking.

And I don't want you to give up on yourself or the recipe. I want you to like evaluate what happened, think about it and try again because that's really how you become a much better cook. But first, let's sit back and unwind with two excellent humans. With us this week is Lauren Chulgin, a senior reporter, producer and the host of the NHPR podcast, the 13th Step. Lauren, hello.

Hi, Greta. Also here is Anisa Halifa. She produces and hosts the WUNC

podcast, The Broadside, as well as indie podcasts, dramas over flowers and Muslim in plain sight.

Anisa, welcome to the show. Thank you so much. This is very exciting. Yay. Okay, so let's start this

week with the new Scorsese film that is out.

It's called Killers of the Flower Moon.

It's based on the nonfiction book by David Grant.

And it's about a string of murders of members of the Osage Nation in Oklahoma after large deposits of oil was found on their land in the 1920s.

It is over 400 minutes.

It's almost three and a half hours long.

And apparently some indie movie theaters

have been offering intermissions for the film.

And they actually got in like a lot of trouble

from the movie studios.

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