Hey, this is Durey and welcome to Potsy of the People.

On this episode of Potsy of the People, we have the news with me Clint Brennan-Sam, as always,

we also have Disha Dyer who was a last social secretary in the Obama White House.

And then we have Kila Krain, assistant general counsel at the NAACP and an Ari Kalu, a Yale

Law student who will talk to us about the work that they're doing around the census.

Before we jump into today, I'll talk about the difference between hope as work and hope

as magic.

There are some people who talk about being hopeless, there are some people who are pessimistic

in this moment.

And I would say that a lot of those people think about hope as being magic.

The things will just get better because we want them to get better or it won't take any

effort. And the reality is that hope is work.

That when I say I'm hopeful, I understand hope to be the understanding that our tomorrow

is can be better than our today's.

And it only gets there because people put in work.

That the people before I sit and just believe in a future that was equitable and just

and it just got a little bit better by sheer belief.

It was work that made it happen.

So make sure that you understand hope is work and I hope is magic.

Let's get to it.

And now the news with me, Clint Smith III, our resident academic Sam Sinyangui, our resident

data scientist and Brittany Pacnatt.

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