“Your Face Belongs to Us” with Kashmir Hill

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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🗓️ 23 January 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

From unlocking our phones, to scanning our faces to board flights, facial recognition technology has become a ubiquitous part of modern life. And while its implementation can make life easier, what are the ramifications of companies capturing and selling our biometric data? And do we really own our faces? Our guest this week points that unregulated, this technological superpower can lead to dystopian, sci-fi novel-like applications. Kashmir Hill is a tech reporter at the New York Times and author of “Your Face Belongs to Us: A Secretive Startup's Quest to End Privacy as We Know It,” in which she chronicles the rise of Clearview AI. She joins WITHpod to discuss the growth of this technology, privacy concerns, ways in which our online “dossiers” are linked to our faces and more.

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0:00.0	Now with this kind of technology, it is pretty easy to either retroactively like the sedition hunters did you know attach a name to a
0:16.4	face but even in real time and so I think that will I just think it could be pretty
0:21.4	haunting if you have this you have to have this
0:23.6	assumption as you're moving through the world every day well maybe somebody else in
0:27.9	this pharmacy is gonna take a picture of me and know I'm the person buying
0:31.7	hemorrhoid cream or you know you're out to dinner you're having a sensitive
0:35.6	conversation that you know it's work gossip or you're talking about a friend or something serious
0:41.2	that's happening in your life and you just assume the people
0:43.7	dining around you are strangers. What if they get interested in what you have to say,
0:47.1	take your picture, now know who you are, understand the context, and that's just
0:51.3	kind of day-to-day life not even to mention the kind of
0:53.9	government's having this power to know who people are all the time or businesses as
0:58.2	we're already starting to see.
1:00.8	Hello and welcome to Why's this happening with me your host Chris Hayes.
1:07.0	You know my friend and colleague Ryan Riley at NBC News has a great book out called
1:17.6	Sedition hunters that is about the sprawling investigation into the January 6th,
1:22.4	Rioters insurrectionists, but specifically investigation into the January 6th,
1:22.5	riders insurrectionists, but specifically about a sort of
1:25.9	this kind of online community that came together,
1:28.4	calling themselves Sedition hunters,
1:30.4	who used essentially open source intelligence, right?
1:33.5	Just stuff that was out on the internet, images, and video
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