Creating Global Routes to Hope with David Miliband

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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🗓️ 16 January 2024

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Armed conflict, increases in public debt and the climate crisis are just a few factors that will accelerate humanitarian crises globally in 2024, according to the International Rescue Committee. Meanwhile, there’s a number of practical issues that have been raised by the high pace of migrants presenting at borders and applying for asylum around the world. Our guest this week points out the importance of creating “legal routes to hope” amid increased global migration. David Miliband is President & CEO of the International Rescue Committee (IRC), where he oversees the agency’s humanitarian relief operations in more than 40 war-affected countries and its refugee resettlement and assistance programs in the U.S. Before that, he served as a Foreign Secretary of the U.K. He joins to discuss the IRC’s 2024 Emergency Watchlist, myths about the global humanitarian crisis that have become a part of media discourse, actionable solutions and more.

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0:00.0	It's right that people want to know who's coming in.
0:08.0	It's right that people want to know who's coming in.
0:10.5	It's right that there should be a proper system for deciding who has a right to stay
0:14.0	it's right that those who don't have a right to say don't stay and the question then
0:19.0	becomes one of if you like order I always think that there's a danger if you like, order. I always think that there's a danger. If you pose the choices,
0:25.9	either you can be humane or you can be orderly, then those who would advocate cruelty
0:32.3	are going to win. If you say, look, cruelty does not lead to order.
0:36.4	Cruelty actually empowers the people smugglers. It increases the incentives to find
0:42.0	irregular ways of getting round the system and the cruelty is actually a source of disorder,
0:47.0	you can combine order with humanity. I think that's a really much more secure basis to say yeah it's right to want it to be
0:55.3	orderly it's right to want it to be controlled it's right to want it to be fair
1:07.0	hello and welcome to Wiesis This Happening with me your host Chris Hayes. About a week and a week and a half ago the House Republican leadership Speaker Mike Johnson and a whole bunch of other
1:19.4	where Holigans went down to Texas, the border on the Rio Grande River, and they stood there and they had this big,
1:26.7	you know, event to talk about the border where there has been a lot of apprehensions of migrants who have been crossing with the intent to present
1:37.7	themselves to Border Patrol and to apply for asylum as is their legal right both under international and domestic US law.
1:45.3	Now when they did this they were there sort of doing the event when this family of migrants
1:50.6	was actually waiting through the river which was kind of a PR coup for House Republicans
1:56.0	because the whole point of this was to be like, look at how out of control it is, look at these people.
1:59.4	We're down here doing our event and even that,
2:03.7	even while we're here doing our event they're crossing.
2:06.4	And, you know, it is true that the numbers of crossings
2:10.0	are very high in historical terms, you know, hundreds of thousands a month.
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