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Your DNA is constantly mutating, and that’s a good thing

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Life Sciences, Friday, Wnyc, Natural Sciences, Science

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🗓️ 27 April 2026

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

Everyday DNA mutations can help us understand immune function and aging—and even mitigate harm caused by some inherited diseases.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Ira Flato, and you're listening to Science Friday. Right now, your DNA is mutating. Yes, yours. Well, and mine too. And no, I'm not giving you an early cancer diagnosis. Cancer and mutations obviously go hand in hand, but you may be surprised to know that

0:23.2

our bodily systems are rife with mutations. These errors and attempts to repair them are a key to

0:31.1

understanding immune function, aging, and even how heart disease develops. In fact, gene mutations can even mitigate the harm

0:39.4

caused by some inherited diseases. My next guest is here to take us on a journey through the

0:44.5

illuminating science of genetic mutations. Roxanne Camsey is a science writer and author of the

0:51.0

new book, Beyond Inheritance, are ever-mutating cells and a new understanding of health.

0:56.7

She's based in Montreal, Quebec. Welcome to Science Writer. Welcome back. Thank you so much, Iris.

1:01.8

Great to be back. Nice to have you. Okay, you know, most of us think about our DNA as it's static,

1:08.7

it's stable, kind of like a personal ID number. How should we be thinking about

1:13.8

how our DNA changes over the course of our lives? So I was taught the same thing. I was taught

1:20.2

that the DNA inherited from my mother and my father is the same in all of my cells. And

1:25.9

what I discovered about eight years ago was that's not the

1:30.2

whole picture and that scientists right now are uncovering that each human body is a landscape

1:36.3

of genetic diversity and that our DNA is dynamic. It's not static. In fact, scientists estimate

1:43.9

that if a person reaches 100 years old, a single white blood cell will have around 3,000 mutations that are not found in the rest of their body.

1:53.9

So this is the new understanding of genetics I really feel is important that our DNA changes over time.

2:01.4

Why are mutations so rampant then in our cells?

2:04.7

So part of this has to do with the fact that we are a collection of cells.

2:08.5

We all start as a single cell for the first 24 hours after we're conceived.

2:14.1

And then by the time we reach adulthood, we're around 30 to 40 trillion cells. And that's not

2:19.5

counting the 30 trillion cells in our gut microbiome that are microbial cells. And there's a lot

2:26.2

of turnover to maintain this mass of cells that we are. Every time a cell divides, it's trying to

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