Desire is not something to be feared, but it's also not something that needs to be blindly followed.

We need to intentionally form our relationship to desire.

I want to release people to desire again, both in their marriages and in their individual life.

Dear young married couple, desire can wreck your life,

but it also can reveal the exact place God wants to heal.

Today we're sitting down with Jay Stringer,

licensed mental health counselor, researcher, ordained minister,

and the author of Unwanted and his new book, Desire.

Jay has helped so many people understand that our unwanted patterns aren't random,

but they're connected to story, shame, trauma, attachment, and longing.

In this conversation, we talk about why desire can feel so confusing,

how it gets distorted, and what it looks like to stop just fighting desire

and start understanding what it's trying to reveal.

This one is honest, and it's full of moments that will make you think differently about your

own story.

Let's get into it.

It is an honor today to have Jay Stringer on the podcast with us.

Thank you so much for being with us today.

Adam and Carissa, it is so good to be with you. Thank you for having me.

We have followed your work for a long time, and we had the privilege of being in a training

with you in person here in the Sacramento area, but we've been impacted by your books for many years. And you have a new

book out on desire. And when Christians see the word desire, I think that immediately brings,

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