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Brian and Laira on WNYC, and we will end with a call in for people whose college degrees served you early in your working life, but then not after a certain point.

What did you do then other than go to grad school?

212-433 WNYC, 212-433-9692. This is part of our series on being upwardly mobile without a college degree.

In this case, it's a call-in for people whose college degrees did serve you early in your working life, who did get a college degree, but then it didn't serve you after a certain point, economically speaking.

What did you do then other than more college, other than go to grad school?

How did you get skilled through alternative routes?

212-433 WNYC, 212-433-9-692.

Let's get some stories on the table as part of this series. This time it's staying

upwardly mobile when your college degrees stopped helping you. Maybe you were in a job

you had outgrown or trying to break into a new field that had suddenly changed its expectations.

Maybe the industries you were in started asking for new credentials, new digital skills,

or higher degrees just to keep doing what you're already good at. Or maybe you've never had a

college degree, and that's made moving up more complicated, even though you have the experience.

So in this case, we want to emphasize people whose college degrees did serve you early in your

working life, but then not after a certain point.

The whole point of this series is to help other people who may be facing things like the

scenarios we've been discussing in various segments in the series, and you can help other listeners right now by talking

about what you did if you had a college degree, but then it stopped serving you in a career

sense after a certain point. Who has a story like that? 212-433, WNYC, 212, 433-9692. Did you go for another type of training? Did you get a certificate or maybe take a boot camp? There are so many people who've gone through various kinds of boot camps in recent years. You can call about that. Did you join a union training program or find an apprenticeship, even when you were in your

30s, even when you were in your 40s, or maybe you used online courses, employer training

at the workplace you were already at, or just pure hustle to shift into a new role. Tell us a story of what you did

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