Your Brain Shuts Down When You Try Not to Say 'Um' | Michael Hoeppner • 438
Mind Love™ • Consciousness, Spirituality, and Science for Awakening
Melissa Monte | Conscious Coach
4.9 • 906 Ratings
🗓️ 27 January 2026
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Summary
Why is almost all communication coaching worse than useless?
Michael Hoeppner breaks down why mental advice for what's actually a physical art form keeps you stuck in self-consciousness and thought suppression. This conversation goes beyond tips and tricks into the neuroscience of why trying NOT to say "um" makes you say it more.
What you'll learn:
- Why speaking takes 120 muscles but gets mental coaching
- How thought suppression sabotages your communication automatically
- The embodied cognition approach that actually builds skill
Michael Hoeppner coaches presidential candidates and created GK Training. He's the author of bestseller "Don't Say Um" and has spent decades studying why conventional communication advice backfires.
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| 0:00.0 | Why is almost all communication coaching almost worse than useless? |
| 0:05.2 | Because most of it just makes people think about all the stuff that they're doing wrong, |
| 0:09.5 | and it's overly general. So I often tell people, you can tell when coaching is not helpful to you |
| 0:15.5 | with three stages. The first is thought suppression. So that's like, don't talk too fast. Okay. The second is a general |
| 0:25.5 | piece of advice that is completely unactionable because it's so general, which is like, just slow down. |
| 0:31.9 | And then the third thing is, it's a mental reminder for what is often a physical activity. |
| 0:43.3 | And the thing that people don't really comprehend about speaking is it's a deeply physical art form. We turn air into sound and then sound into words with our bodies. |
| 0:48.3 | It takes 120 muscles more actually to do this everyday miracle of creating words from just air. |
| 0:56.9 | It's physical. |
| 0:58.8 | You're listening to Mind Love with me, Melissa Monty. |
| 1:06.5 | So you would never give someone mental advice about some other deeply physical thing. And so you |
| 1:11.8 | get mental advice, which is like, remember to breathe. And that whole mixture, the thought suppression, |
| 1:18.6 | the general advice, and the mental reminder for what is a physical activity tends to just make |
| 1:23.5 | people focus more on themselves and all the stuff that they're doing wrong, and it gets |
| 1:28.0 | counterproductive for people. |
| 1:30.4 | So that's why you named your book, don't say um, because I was like, now all I want to say |
| 1:35.3 | is um, this is going to be the most um-ridden podcast of my entire life. |
| 1:41.0 | Well, one of the terrible unintended consequences, and I absolutely mean this, the unintended consequence |
| 1:46.4 | of naming the book what I did is that everyone who talks to me becomes wickedly self-conscious |
| 1:51.4 | right away. And I always say, like, I'm not scoring you right now. I'm not keeping a scorecard |
| 1:56.0 | of how you're speaking. But the title has worked insofar as it does arouse people's curiosity. It's a bestseller |
| 2:03.4 | and I think a big reason why it is, and that's not to brag about me or the title, I think it's |
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