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Death, Sex & Money

"You Should Be Carrying This. Not Me."

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Podcasts

Business, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Careers, Relationships, Sexuality

4.67.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2021

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Last year, a listener named Chloe had an unusual opportunity: to get on a Zoom call with the man who she says sexually assaulted her 10 years ago.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, I want to let you know this episode is about sexual violence and it includes a description of an assault.

0:06.0

Please take care while listening.

0:09.0

Hello, my name is Chloe and I recently had a Zoom call with my rapist.

0:21.0

This is Death, Sex and Money.

0:24.0

This show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot and need to talk about more.

0:31.0

I'm Anna Sayl.

0:41.0

Hi, Chloe, it's Anna.

0:43.0

Hi, Anna.

0:45.0

Chloe is an artist who lives in California.

0:48.0

We're just going to use her first name.

0:50.0

We spoke after she sent us a voice memo about the Zoom call she had with a man she says raped her.

0:56.0

She talked with me from the loft space where she lives and works.

0:59.0

I split a big studio with my roommate in front and she is a print maker and I'm a painter.

1:10.0

Chloe's paintings are muted and swirling.

1:14.0

She does a lot of self portraits and she's done several series about body image, sexual assault and loss.

1:21.0

I've used my art as a way of sort of being able to process these things that I've been through.

1:29.0

Chloe was an art school at the time of her alleged assault. She was 20.

1:34.0

We talked to the former classmate who she says raped her but you won't hear from him in this episode.

1:39.0

He declined to talk to us on tape.

1:41.0

We're not going to use his name and Chloe told us she didn't feel compelled to identify him here.

1:46.0

That classmate was never charged with a crime.

1:49.0

And because of that, Chloe says it's been really hard to move forward.

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