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Everything Is Energy with Cathy Heller

You're Not Being Difficult, You're Finally Saying No

Everything Is Energy with Cathy Heller

Cathy Heller

Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality

4.98K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2026

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

If you can't stop thinking about the thing you want and your life still isn't reflecting it, the problem may not be your vision. It may be that you need it. Join Cathy's Circle https://www.cathyheller.com/cathys-circle/ In this episode of Everything Is Energy, Cathy Heller sits down with Tracy Litt, founder of The School of Becoming and international bestselling author of Worthy Human, for a conversation about manifestation, self-abandonment, emotional expression, and what it actually takes to become the version of you who already has it. Tracy is a TEDx speaker licensed in professional coaching, neurology, somatics, and hypnotherapy, and she was named one of SUCCESS Magazine's Top 125 Global Thought Leaders. She went from single mother on food stamps to building a seven-figure company, and her institute integrates consciousness, neuroscience, healing, and energetics. She is also the rare teacher who is both deeply loving and ruthlessly precise, which is why women feel safe enough with her to do the biggest work of their lives. This is not a vision board conversation. It's a look at why desire coming from need repels the thing you want, why the micro moments decide your trajectory, and why rage is holy work. In this episode, you'll learn: Why desire registers twice on the frequency scale, once as the lowest state and once as the highest, and how to tell which one you're in The come from test: if you want it to fix a problem, that is low consciousness dressed up as high consciousness Connected to everything, attached to nothing, and why letting go of the need is what closes the gap If you are given a vision, you are a visionary, and why no one else will ever see it the way you do The habit that undoes your progress: taking ten steps toward the vision and then looking down to check if it's there yet Why the most powerful healing move is not going back to fix her, it's being the evolved version of you right now What "decide" actually means, and why deciding from a retreat high is adrenaline, not truth The reason good vibes only culture is making people sicker, and what suppressed emotion does to the body Why a woman is not back in her power until she is back in her body This episode is for the woman who has read the books, done the breathwork, and can name every block she has, and still finds herself saying yes when her body said no. If you have been waiting for permission to want what you want without justifying it, this conversation is it. Join Cathy's membership This Abundant Life http://cathyheller.com/life Listen to Everything is Energy on Apple Podcasts https://apple.co/2JjyyM1 or Spotify https://spoti.fi/3bKK13W Follow Cathy on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/cathy.heller/ Want to work with Cathy? cathyheller.com/work-with-me The School of Becoming and The Becoming House https://www.theschoolofbecoming.com/ Download the School of Becoming app free for Tracy's weekly Frequency Shift audios Follow Tracy on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thetracylitt/ Read Tracy's book Worthy Human Watch Tracy's TEDx talk, Dear Fear, It's Not You, It's Me Timestamps 00:00 Why does the thing you want keep not showing up? 05:53 Is it your desire, or are you fixing a problem? 08:17 Connected to everything, attached to nothing 09:05 How The Becoming House got manifested 16:06 What Tracy told every person who touched the property 22:41 If you have a vision, you are a visionary 24:35 The habit that sends you back to square one 28:17 The birthday weekend Cathy almost gave away 33:28 Why telling the truth feels so hard 36:16 The most powerful healing thing you can do 41:19 Can you be spiritual and still want the nice thing? 53:20 What "decide" actually means 1:06:42 The iced tea that changed Cathy's career 1:14:46 Why rage is holy work 1:19:54 What good vibes only is doing to your body #Manifestation #EmotionalHealing #NervousSystemHealing #SelfLove #PersonalTransformation #HealingJourney #Abundance

Transcript

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0:00.0

Ladies and gentlemen, which is so funny because I never start my show like that.

0:04.9

But I want to start this show that way because it's sort of like I get to have this moment with you,

0:13.4

which is so powerful for me, right?

0:17.3

Tracy Lit has been on this show before and we've done it on Zoom.

0:22.3

She is such a force in this world and who she is in my life is so powerful that it just feels so awesome that we get to indulge yet again.

0:35.8

But to do it on camera, not on Zoom for you. And every time I step into

0:42.9

the vortex of a conversation with Tracy, I am so excited. It's like, ooh, what gift am I

0:49.4

about to unwrap? Tracy, for those who don't know her, is such a way shower. She helps people to step into the

0:59.3

truth of who they are. She is one of the most loving people I've ever met and brilliant,

1:07.0

brilliant, brilliant. And the combo of being that loving and that brilliant gives people the safety

1:15.3

to do the biggest work of their life and get their life back. So Trace, I'm so happy you're here

1:24.2

and you look fantastic. Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be here.

1:29.0

I could just sit here and stare in your eyes and smile like, I love you so much. And there's so many things I love about you, including your hair, including the way you are as a mother, including the way you are so fun to be with and can sing all the songs and know all the

1:45.1

right references but are also just always a eye-opener to me of more truth, more expansion.

1:57.2

And also, I am always really moved at the level that you show up as a friend.

2:08.8

Like, it has expanded what I know to be true about friendship, your capacity to be there and celebrate and see

2:24.2

and cheer for and love, listening, guiding, receiving, playing with, and mirror with, and

2:33.5

mirroring the best in your friends.

2:39.6

It's one in a one in a zillion.

2:43.9

Thank you. Thank you.

2:45.6

It is, I cannot fathom another, that there's an alternative, right, to loving the shit out of you

2:55.3

at every level for no other reason other than I love you.

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