Suzanne, thanks for joining us today. Thanks for having me, Kwame. Well, it is our pleasure. So how

would you tell us a little bit about yourself and what you do? Sure. So I have been a professor

for a number of years, including in places like IMD in Switzerland, as well as in the States.

And in addition to that, I do a number of workshops and programs for companies around the world.

I'm proud to say I've taught on six continents.

I have multiple negotiation articles that I've written.

I have a textbook that's coming into its third edition.

I have an interpersonal skills textbook where negotiation plays an important role in one of the chapters that is coming into its eighth edition. I have an interpersonal skills textbook where negotiation plays an important role in one of the

chapters that is coming into its eighth edition. And I'm also the mother of twins, boy girl twins.

So my earliest experiences in teaching negotiation come from having two kids that had to learn

how to share from the beginning. So I really am excited about the kind of work

I do. And in particular, again, drawing on those gender differences, some of the research,

as well as corporate work that I'm doing these days involves some of the nitty, gritty sort of

process-oriented differences in how men and women approach negotiations

early in the middle of and also kind of at the tail end. And so I've been doing some research

in that space for the last about five years. And it's fascinating. Incredible. And listeners,

you are in for a treat today and you know how I know this? Because the

interview is done. So we're going to drop you right at the beginning of this call because we vibe

from the beginning so you can hear us chit-chat and then roll into the interview. What is it that's

giving you the most energy right now regarding negotiation or conflict resolution?

Two things. One of them, and this is the subject of the HBR piece that I wrote 21,

I've been teaching negotiation for many years, as have you, and we normally start with, okay,

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