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Introducing Series Reflections: Reporters’ Roundtable from The Hidden Economics of Remarkable Women (HERO).

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First, we need to share some news. This may be our last episode.

We are so grateful to the funding we have received for this podcast over the past four years. But our largest grant is ending soon. So for now, we are saying goodbye. We truly hope to be back in your feed someday.

To commemorate HERO, we are doing one last “follow-up” episode. This was an idea from you, our listeners. You suggested talking to past interviewees and seeing what they are doing now.

For today’s show, we’re doing a “reporters’ roundtable” where we look back and look ahead at some of our most impactful stories of the past eight seasons. Host Reena Ninan talks to Kenya-based reporters Sharon Kiburi and Eunice Maina as well as South-Africa based journalist Elna Schutz.

If you are new to the show, you may want to go back and listen to the stories that Kiburi, Maina, and Schutz talk about on this episode:

What Works in Defeating Workplace Sexual Harassment (Sharon Kiburi)
How Men Are Trying to End Gender-Based Violence in South Africa (Elna Schutz)
The Hidden Economics of Female Genital Mutilation (Eunice Maina)
The Economics of Period Poverty (Elna Schutz)
Fighting for LGBTQ Rights in Kenya (Eunice Maina)
What the Debt Crisis in Kenya Reveals About International Lending (Sharon Kiburi)

In the meantime, please stay in touch. You can email us at [email protected] or contact our senior producer Laura Rosbrow-Telem at [email protected]. We hope to be back soon.

The Hidden Economics of Remarkable Women is a podcast from Foreign Policy, supported in part by the Gates Foundation and Northwestern University’s Roberta Buffett Institute for Global Affairs.

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0:00.0	You're listening to the Hidden Economics of Remarkable Women, a podcast from Foreign Policy.
0:07.0	I'm Rina Ninen.
0:08.0	To round out this season, we're doing one last follow-up episode.
0:12.0	This was an idea from you, our listeners.
0:15.0	You suggested talking to past interviewees and seeing what they're doing now.
0:19.0	For today's show, we're doing a reporter's roundtable where we look back and look ahead
0:24.7	at some of our most impactful stories of the past eight seasons.
0:28.9	Here's my conversation with Kenya-based reporters, Sharon Kiburi, Eunice Meina, as well as
0:35.0	Elna Schutz from South Africa.
0:37.1	Thank you. Eunice Meina, as well as Elna Schutz from South Africa.
0:47.0	Sharon, you reported on sexual harassment with the newsrooms in Kenya.
0:56.6	At the time, you interviewed the head of the Association of Media Women in Kenya, who spearheaded a lot of efforts to reduce sexual harassment,
0:57.5	including trainings.
1:00.0	Recently, you spoke to the head of the organization.
1:00.9	What did she say?
1:04.6	What's happened since those efforts started a few years ago? So when I spoke to Quintambure, the current executive director of our Association of Media
1:09.6	Women in Kenya, she pointed me to a report
1:12.7	that they just recently did in 2024. The report highlighted that 60% of participants who were
1:18.4	predominantly female journalists, they reported experiencing sexual harassment in their careers.
1:23.7	Respondents were age between 25 and 35, and that's a pretty young age.
1:27.7	54% had experienced harassment, which sort of like rubber stamps our earlier notion.
1:34.1	This harassment most of the time happens from bosses to the juniors, and these juniors,
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