Well, if we went back in time about, oh my goodness, how many years?

10 years?

The radio station?

Yeah.

Diana was and became a time management guru.

Basically out of necessity.

Yeah, you were managing a lot and you would walk into her office and it was her desk was always meticulously clean. That was a big desk. It was a big

desk. Yeah. But it was like your office had like a lot of windows into it. So it was good that

you kept it neat because that's true. Everyone could see it. And then you'd walk around the hallway

and go to the back corner where my office was and my desk is just piled their stuff everywhere.

But I kind of prided myself in that because I always saw myself as like more a creative type.

Exactly.

And I'm like, Diana looks so uptight.

I admired your cleanliness when I'm like, you look super uptight.

And there is a tendency to think like, what is she even doing?

Yeah.

Like, if there's nothing on her desk, does she even have enough work to do?

Whereas Dawn, you walked into her office, and it was a flurry of activity.

You're like, oh, she's super busy.

Yeah.

It's like you would throw the promotional T-shirts and stuff across the room just to make, just for the aesthetic. Yeah. It's like you would throw the promotional t-shirts and stuff across the room just to make, just for the aesthetic.

Yeah.

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