You Can’t Be A Perfect Parent Part II: Maternal Mental Health with Dr. Jaclyn Nofech-Mozes
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Cameron Oaks Rogers
4.7 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 27 May 2026
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, I sit down with clinical psychologist Dr. Jaclyn Nofech-Mozes for part two of our conversation on infant attachment. Dr. Jaclyn gives a refresher on the four attachment styles and what it actually looks like to meet your baby’s needs day to day. We dive into the relationship between maternal mental health and mother-infant attachment, how to show up for your child even when you’re struggling, and whether your baby actually picks up on your nervous system. Whether you're navigating daycare guilt, having intrusive thoughts, or contact naps are taking over your life - this episode is a reminder that there is no such thing as a perfect parent.
Key Takeaway / Points:
Four attachment styles explained
Why secure attachment is the default (not the exception)
How you only need to get it right 40-50% of the time to have a securely attached baby
The 3-step technique that helps you stay present if your brain is spiraling
Why taking care of yourself and your mental health is taking care of your baby
The honest answer on whether you can spoil a baby
Listen to Part I of this conversation with Dr. Jaclyn Nofech-Mozes HERE
Find Dr. Jaclyn Nofech-Mozes practice: OrKid Pyschology
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to conversations with Cam. Today we are bringing back one of my favorite guests and a |
| 0:04.2 | favorite of many of you listeners. Dr. Jacqueline, No Effect Moses. She is a clinical psychologist |
| 0:09.4 | and a friend of the show. We did an episode with her on mother infant attachment and how there's |
| 0:14.8 | no such thing as a perfect parent now two years ago. And it resonated with so many people that we |
| 0:20.4 | had to bring her back on for |
| 0:21.5 | part two. So in today's episode, Dr. Jacqueline gives us a refresher on what attachment means. |
| 0:26.7 | She breaks down the four different attachment styles. She gives us practical tools on how to |
| 0:31.5 | strengthen and create the secure attachment with your child. And we also get into the |
| 0:36.3 | relationship between maternal mental health |
| 0:38.7 | and infant attachment and how they do go hand in hand. She explains how to stay present with your |
| 0:44.0 | baby even when your mind is spiraling, which we've all been there, how to deal with intrusive |
| 0:48.6 | thoughts in postpartum, which I dealt with very intensely, and whether your baby actually |
| 0:53.7 | picks up on your nervous system. |
| 0:55.5 | The biggest takeaway is that mother's mental health has the most impact on your child. |
| 1:00.9 | And I don't mean that in a way of like if you are not in a good brain space right now, you're |
| 1:06.4 | having this like negative impact on your child. I mean it more in a way of like we should be |
| 1:10.9 | prioritizing maternal mental health more. So this episode is a reminder for all moms that we also |
| 1:17.0 | need to take care of ourselves. So here's my conversation with Dr. Jacqueline Nofack Moses. Welcome in, take a seat or a drink, pass one to me. |
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| 1:33.7 | Throw away on hesitations. |
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