The Home of Common Sense. This is Talk. I'm delighted to say we are joined in the studio right now by Mr Nigel Farage from the Reform Party. Obviously not the leader of the Reform Party. What's the official title? Honorary President of the Reform Party.

Kicked off yesterday in Dover with an event at which you unveiled a new MP candidate for Dover,

Howard Cox, but you also sort of kick started, I suppose, the reform campaign about stopping

the boats, about how the Conservative Party have kind of lost the plot. But you also came up

for an awful lot of the usual kind of barrage the farage type

stuff, didn't you? I did. I mean, look, I was there to say the reason the elections on July

the 4th is dead simple. The big promise of planes going to Rwanda was not going to happen.

They weren't going. No way that caught in Strasbourg was going to allow this to happen.

Sunak knew that. He knew if the

planes didn't go. One of his flagship policies would have been absolutely catastrophically torn to pieces

and the reform vote would have gone even higher. So I was there making the point that actually

the Rwanda plan doesn't work all the while we've got a foreign court in Strasbourg telling us

how we can control our borders,

simple as.

Worth pointing out, though, that Stama and the Labour Party have nothing to say.

Tackle the gangs.

We've been saying that about the drugs gangs in Britain for decades.

It makes no difference.

It doesn't work.

No.

There's too much money involved. Well, I've been saying this morning, you know, only a week ago, we didn't know there was an election, right?

And it didn't happen until 5 o'clock last Wednesday.

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