Hey, this is Outside In. I'm Taylor Quimby in for Nate Hedgy, who was out on vacation when I was working on this episode.

Before he left, though, I pulled Nate into a studio and I asked him some questions.

When you were growing up, did your parents like drag you out on hikes or walks or like out into the woods?

No, I wouldn't say dragged.

The reason I'm asking is that my only child is nearing 13 years old.

It's an age where you can feel your sphere of influence waning.

And I have been wondering lately, how much does family really shape who

you grow up to be? Are they pretty outdoorsy? Well, this is way too much TMI, but I would know for a fact that I was conceived in a van in the mountains.

So, that kind of tells you everything you need to know.

Yeah. Nate's family hails from British Columbia.

And every summer, his folks would ship him off to Vancouver Island

to spend some time with relatives.

This one time, his uncle took him on a 40 mile hiking trip.

And there was one night, we were camping in his van, and all of a sudden we hear like rustling in the bushes nearby, and I start panicking and he's like no it's a it's a bear and I

start really panicking when he says it's a bear and I remember I also got a bunch of

blisters on that that hike and I had a camera that my dad had borrowed me that I dropped into a stream and then I lied about it to him and it wasn't working.

I was like, I don't know why it's not working.

I was very imprinted in me as being a suffer fest.

I don't know if you're a

I don't know if you're a Calvin and Hobbs fan,

but anything like that, his dad is always like it builds character.

Like they go camping and it rains the whole time and it builds character.

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