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The story you won’t hear in Christopher Nolan’s “Oppenheimer”

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 14 March 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Editor's Note: This episode first aired in July, 2023 With 'Oppenheimer,' director Christopher Nolan turned the Manhattan Project into an Academy-Award-winning blockbuster. The film is set in Los Alamos, where the first atomic bomb was tested. But few people know the history of Carrizozo, a rural farming area downwind of the test. Radioactive fallout from the bomb settled on everything: the soil, gardens, and drinking water. Cow’s milk became radioactive. Later, hundreds of people developed radiogenic cancers.  The people of Carrizozo were among the first people in the world exposed to a nuclear blast. More than 75 years later, their families are still fighting for medical compensation from the federal government. Host Nate Hegyi traveled to New Mexico to visit the Trinity Site, and to hear the stories of so-called ‘downwinders.' Featuring: Paul Pino, Tina Cordova, Ben Ray Lujan   SUPPORT Outside/In is made possible with listener support. Click here to become a sustaining member of Outside/In.  Subscribe to our newsletter (it’s free!). Follow Outside/In on Instagram or join our private discussion group on Facebook. Submit a question to the “Outside/Inbox.” We answer queries about the natural world, climate change, sustainability, and human evolution. You can send a voice memo to outsidein@nhpr.org or leave a message on our hotline, 1-844-GO-OTTER (844-466-8837).   LINKS Read more about RECA (the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act) which passed in the U.S. Senate this March.  (Idaho Capital Sun) The federal government has produced a few studies on the fallout from Trinity. This one from Los Alamos found that there was still contamination in the area in 1985.  Another, from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, produced one of the most in-depth histories of the fallout from Trinity and the government’s reaction. The National Cancer Institute found that hundreds of people likely developed cancer because of the fallout.  The history of Trinity is full of strange little details, like the desert toads that were croaking all night.  You can find affidavits and first-hand accounts of the fallout from Trinity at the Tularosa Basin Downwinders Consortium website.  This review by the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists explains why it’s so hard to determine a definitive death toll for the USI bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki during WWII.    CREDITS Host: Nate Hegyi Reported and produced by Nate Hegyi Edited by Taylor Quimby Editing help from Rebecca Lavoie, Justine Paradis, Felix Poon, and Jeongyoon Han Rebecca Lavoie is our Executive Producer Music for this episode by Blue Dot Sessions Outside/In is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey all, today we're revisiting an episode we released last summer just before the opening weekend for Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer.

0:10.0

I'm betting on three kilotons.

0:16.0

Anything less? They won't get what it is. The film pretty much swept the Oscars, racking up a total of seven wins.

0:21.0

Christopher Nolenopamata.

0:23.0

Including best score, best actor, best director, and best picture.

0:31.0

But in spite of all those accolades, there are those who think the movie missed the mark, or at least missed an opportunity.

0:39.0

So here's our episode.

0:42.0

And listen during the credits for a short update. Hey, this is outside in. I'm Nate Hedgy. A few weeks ago I was sitting on a bus outside of the gates of a military base in New Mexico.

1:00.0

It was hot, the air conditioning was roaring.

1:03.0

While we are on the range and we are driving, there's no photography, videography, audio

1:07.7

recordings of any time.

1:09.7

That was our handler, Genjet, and this place is the White Sands Missile Range. It has

1:14.6

hypersonic missiles military secrets we aren't allowed to know about and also

1:19.5

African analog? Chances are we're going to see O'RX.

1:24.0

O'RX were introduced by wildlife officials in New Mexico in the 1960s for trophy hunting.

1:29.8

Now they roam wild out on this active bombing range.

1:33.9

But we weren't there to see Orix.

1:36.4

We were there to see a monument.

1:41.6

All right, so we just stepped out of the bus and kind of near a fenced area with barbed wire,

1:52.0

a little hut, and then a classic yellow sign that says caution radioactive materials.

1:59.0

And there's a gravel road leading towards the Trinity site.

2:07.0

Trinity.

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