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The Next Big Idea

YOU, BUT BETTER: The Science and Promise of Personality Change

The Next Big Idea

Next Big Idea Club

Self-improvement, Arts, Books, Society & Culture, Education

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Can you change who you are? When reporter Olga Khazan decided she was tired of being a “high-strung misanthrope” (her words), she turned to science for answers. What she discovered about personality — and how to change it — might surprise you. Host: Daniel Pink Guest: Olga Khazan Book: Me, But Better This episode was recorded live at Politics and Prose on March 12th.

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0:00.0

LinkedIn Presents

0:01.3

I'm Caleb Bissinger, and this is the next big idea.

0:10.3

Today, don't love your personality.

0:13.6

Guess what? You'll go first. I'd like to be a little more outgoing, a little more extroverted. I'm not shy. I genuinely enjoy other people's company. But I don't know, socializing makes me nervous. Like, even with friends, family, people I love,

0:57.1

I can't always relax.

1:00.3

It's something of a relief then

1:02.2

to know that I'm not alone in wanting to tweak my traits.

1:06.5

Studies have found that 90% of people want the same thing.

1:10.7

They want to edit their personalities.

1:13.4

But how? How do you do that? You can't just snap your fingers and become a different person.

1:20.7

Or can you? Enter Olga Hazan. That name may ring a bell.

1:28.6

She's a staff writer at the Atlantic.

1:30.5

We had her on the show all the way back in 2020

1:32.9

to talk about her last book, Weird.

1:35.9

Like me, like everyone,

1:37.8

she wanted to be different.

1:39.6

But instead of a personality touch-up,

1:42.2

she sought a full-blown makeover, a self-described high-strung

1:47.0

misanthrope. She wanted to be, I don't know, what's the opposite of that? Maybe a chilled-out

1:53.2

social butterfly. That may sound like a tall order, impossible even. But as she dug into

2:00.8

the scientific research, Olga discovered that it's not actually a Herculian

2:06.1

or Sisyphian task.

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