You ain't a leftist if you haven’t left yet w/ Mohammed El-Kurd

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🗓️ 9 October 2023

⏱️ 86 minutes

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*Editor's note: This episode was recorded on 9/25/23*

Jen, Demetrius, and Kiley sit down with Mohammed El-Kurd (@m7mdkurd) to discuss what is happening in El-Kurd’s hometown, Al Quds, settler colonialism, and the Palestinian/Native connection.

You can learn more about our guest here: https://www.mohammedelkurd.com/

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0:00.0	And So, The segue question having all that said because I don't want to be blubbering this whole time
0:36.6	is this particular issue is often framed as being along racial lines, right?
0:45.0	Which really gets ridiculous.
0:46.6	People get caught up on identity politics, right?
0:48.9	People claim they're in favor of supporting a figure like Onate
0:52.3	because of quote unquote Spanish heritage and
0:54.5	it's framed as an issue between like natives and Hispanics but we know that that's
0:58.9	not what it's about at all. This is about settler colonialism and so I see that parallel when we're thinking
1:05.2	about Palestine and looking at Palestine where you know people try to make it a
1:09.7	dispute between like Palestinians and Jews for example we know that's not what it's about.
1:14.5	So during this action you know I attempted to deflect or redirect the conversation
1:20.2	and be like we're talking about settler colonialism we're talking about people who are occupied, you know, and we're talking about not any kind of ethnic disputes, we're talking about a settler colonial project where there is obvious systemic power imbalances.
1:34.0	So I just wanted to kind of hear your thoughts on that and like, you know, how we navigate these,
1:41.1	you know, these narratives that really seek to undermine our movements and to derail us
1:46.2	from you know our principled fight.
1:48.8	That is the word derail right?
1:50.1	Like I feel like these kinds of claims are often put forth to kind of distract from the focal point at hand.
1:58.7	It's ridiculous and it sounds ridiculous to the average listener that there is like a dispute about some Spanish guy or that there is somebody who has grievances with Jews being in Palestine.
2:09.0	But the reality of the matter is it's about the land. It's about colonizers who have come over from foreign parts of the world who have taken over our lands, who have desecrated our lands.
2:22.0	But these kinds of distractions like painting
2:24.8	it as a civil dispute or as a religious conflict and even more recently in Palestine as a real estate dispute
2:31.4	served to kind of you know radicule and like you said undermine our struggles for liberation
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