Welcome back to another edition of The Yoke with Doke.

Tom and I are again joined by Don Placic, Renaissance Golf Design Associate.

In this episode we discussed Tom's revolutionary reversible golf course the loop which is located at the

Forest Dunes Resort in Ross Common, Michigan.

As always, a reminder to check out Renaissance Golf.com and Tom's books,

the confidential guides to golf courses, and the little red book on golf course architecture.

They're both fantastic resources to learn more about architecture, different courses around the world,

really great resource to help you travel smarter.

So without further ado, here is the latest episode of The Yoke with Doke. Tom Doak is back and as usual he's not holding back.

But don't toss the yolk.

And the famously candid doke doesn't pull any punches.

How do I make natural looking contour?

Higher the biggest fool in the village

and tell him to make it flat.

First overrated, underrated, rough.

Terribly over the years. How long had you wanted to build a reversible golf course?

More than 20 years. I mean, I didn't really honestly think that we'd ever do it on a full 18 whole project. I thought maybe a 9 hole project or something or even smaller. I mean, the idea comes from the first place I saw it was Tom Simpson's book about golf course architecture, which was written in the late 20s.

He had a little appendix in back. Now Simpson built, he didn't build a lot of courses.

He built, he built several like private estate courses for the Roth

Childs and like the richest families in Europe and Britain. And most of them were not 18 whole golf courses. Some of them were nine holes, some

them were six holes, some of them were just three holes. And you know having three holes in your backyard would be kind of cool.

And it'd be a lot better than trying to keep

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