Hello, Wienabbers. My name is Jesse Meekum, and this podcast does not have a number because it is a special interview that I did with one of my favorite authors. His name is Mike McAllowitz, and he wrote a book that as a business owner absolutely positively changed my life.

It is called Profit First.

However, Mike is a prolific author and he thinks deeply when it comes to businesses.

So I know, while we don't talk about business a lot on this podcast,

I thought we might be able to make an exception because I know a lot of you are business

owners, whether you've got something that is kind of your main gig or a side hustle, what he talks

about in his new book will absolutely apply.

It is called Clockwork.

It is excellent.

He has a fun way of writing where I don't get bored reading it and

he interweaves a lot of stories and has a great way of kind of breaking down

principles into very actionable steps. So this rather exceptionally long podcast for Wineab is now available and it's where I interview

Mike and we chat first about profit first and kind of how we got to know each other

and how it

it changed my life as a business owner and then we dive into his new book

which is clockwork which actually comes out today.

Okay Mike McChry. today.

Okay, Mike McCallowice, thanks for coming on the Wina Podcast. Jesse, thank you so much for having me.

Yeah, absolutely.

So, our audience has maybe heardbie mentioned profit first on the podcast because, and I'm not, you know, like brown nose in here, but it radically changed my, this friction I felt with my business around

owner distributions. So I want you to give like a two, I want everyone to know about profit first and I want you to give a pitch for it and then we'll dive in a new book which I think business owners if man if they can't find profit they or if they just like they're running themselves ragged,

clockwork, your new book that will hit is great.

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