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🗓️ 23 April 2025
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Fractious debate on supreme court ruling.
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0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
0:05.0 | Hello, I'm Alicia McCarthy. Thanks for downloading the Yesterday in Parliament podcast. |
0:10.2 | On Tuesday the 22nd of April, there were angry exchanges in the Commons as the government responded to last week's Supreme Court ruling on the legal definition of a woman. |
0:20.2 | What is a woman? A question which after a lengthy legal battle ended up in the Supreme Court |
0:25.7 | last week. Judges ruled that the term woman in relation to the Equality's Act is defined by |
0:31.3 | biological sex and that someone born male doesn't have the right to use spaces or services |
0:36.7 | designated as being for women only. |
0:39.8 | Responding to the ruling, the Equality's Minister Bridget Philipson said there was what she called a sensible view held by the majority of the British public. |
0:47.9 | That women need single-sex spaces, that those spaces should be protected. |
0:52.5 | And that you can protect those spaces while treating trans people with respect as well. |
0:58.2 | So the certainty that this judgment brings is welcome. |
1:02.2 | And now, Madam Deputy Speaker, it is time to move forward. |
1:05.8 | She argued what was needed now was clarity about what the ruling meant for everything from prisons to sport and |
1:11.4 | health care and the Equality's and Human Rights Commission was working quickly on a code of practice |
1:16.5 | to reflect the judgment. Now normally it's the minister's opposite number on the Tory benches |
1:22.0 | who responds to statements like this but this time the conservative leader Kemi Badenock, |
1:27.0 | herself a former women |
1:28.3 | and Equality's Minister, came to the dispatch box and took a swing at Sekeir Stama. |
1:33.7 | In 2021, the Prime Minister said it is not right to say only women have a cervix. In 2022, he said, |
1:41.3 | it is the law that trans women are women. In 2023, he said, and I quote, 99% of women don't have a penis. |
1:49.6 | I know what a woman is, and I always have. |
1:54.1 | The people of this country know what a woman is. |
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