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Yesterday in Parliament

Yesterday in Parliament 1 Nov 25

Yesterday in Parliament

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🗓️ 1 November 2025

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Peers say there must be no backsliding on Ukraine

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Hello there, I'm Alyssa McCarthy Podcasts.

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Hello there, I'm Alicia McCarthy. Thanks for downloading the Yesterday in Parliament podcast.

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On Friday the 31st of October, a former head of the British Army says Ukraine is fighting a proxy war on behalf of NATO, but is being denied the means to win. Lord Horton said President

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Putin seemed content to grind the war towards a ceasefire, and he warned as long as the Russian

0:28.7

leader remained in power, there'd be a lingering danger. He will see Britain as Americans proxy.

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He will have a fully mobilised set of armed forces, an untouched suite of

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strategic capabilities, a fully mobilised war economy and a window of opportunity to act,

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whilst NATO, certainly the UK at the moment, still prioritises welfare benefits over national

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security.

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Another former Chief of the Defence Staff and independent peer, Lord Sturip, feared that a ceasefire

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would not mean peace.

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Russia's attempts to destabilise and undermine NATO will continue, and it will rearm as rapidly

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as possible in order to threaten Western security and to attempt to isolate Ukraine.

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So we will, at best best have an armed pause,

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not peace. The defence minister Lord Koker insisted there'd been no weakening of the government or the British people's resolve to stand up for Ukraine. He said this government had massively

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increased backing for the country, including new sanctions,

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more aid and military support. And banging the dispatch box, he added,

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Democracy and the rules-based international order matter. And that is what is at stake in Ukraine

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today. For the Conservatives, Lady Goldie had an equally strong message for President Putin

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that the UK had and would always stand up to bullies. But she argued for its part, Ukraine had to

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tackle corruption. Without that explicit recognition from Ukraine, there can be no confidence by the

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international community that it is worthwhile providing help.

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