Even if you don't watch the TV show Yellowstone, there's a good chance you know people who do.

The very popular western is entering its fifth season, it's already got multiple spin-offs

planned, and it's not slowing down.

Kevin Costner plays the patriarch of the Dutton family and their story and sprawling

ranch, one of the television's biggest current success stories.

I'm Linda Holmes and today we're talking about Yellowstone on Pop Culture Happy Hour

from NPR.

Joining us today is New York Times columnist and University of North Carolina Chapel Hill

Professor Trecy McMillan, Cotum Welcome Trecy.

Hello, hello, hello, it's a thrill to be here.

Well, it's a thrill to have you here to talk about Yellowstone.

For people who are not familiar, Yellowstone stars Kevin Costner as John Dutton, the super

mega rich patriarch of the super mega rich Dutton family, John rules over the Yellowstone

ranch with the brutality of Tony soprano, but he is also given to frequent musings about

what really matters and how life ought to be.

He is aided by his equally merciless daughter Beth, played by Kelly Riley and his son Casey,

played by Luke Grimes, who used to be a Navy seal.

His son Jamie, played by West Bentley, is a lawyer who is kind of the black sheep of

the family because he wears a suit instead of a cowboy hat.

The Dutons are constantly knocking heads not only with a series of evil developers who

are very similar to each other, but also with the leadership of the nearby Broken Rock

reservation, the reservations leader Thomas Rainwater, played by Gil Birmingham is sometimes

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