A warning, this episode contains discussion of sexual assault.

The movie she said is about Megan Tui and Jody Cantor. The New York Times reporters who broke the

huge story that helped bring down movie producer Harvey Weinstein in 2017. It's a movie about the

complex and fraught world of investigative reporting, as well as the lives upended by decades of

sexual misconduct. I'm Stephen Thompson and today we are talking about she said on pop culture happy

hour from NPR. Joining us today is NPR senior editor for Investigations Barry Hardiman Hey,

Barry. Hi. Also joining us as podcast producer and film and culture critic Kate Young, hey Kate.

Yeah, thanks for having me. Pleasure to have you also with us is NPR correspondent Anastasia

Siocas, hey Anastasia. Hey there, Stephen. Now we should mention that Anastasia is an occasional

contributor to the New York Times where she serves as a music critic. Now she said is based on

Jody Cantor and Megan Tui's New York Times investigation and subsequent book titled She Said

Breaking the Sexual Harassment Story that helped ignite a movement. They are at the center of this

movie played by Zoe Kazan and Carrie Mulligan respectively. The film breaks down the story of how

they reported on movie producer Harvey Weinstein, not only his many years of sexual misconduct,

but also his pattern of buying victims silence, threatening reporters and damaging the careers

of women who rejected or challenged him. Cantor and Tui's reporting in the New York Times contributed

greatly to the MeToo movement and helped lead to criminal charges that sent Weinstein to prison.

She said weaves together many threads from reluctant sources and non-disclosure agreements to the

issues of work life balance that affected the reporters both of whom had young children at home.

It also depicts the work of their shrewd and supportive editors, including Patricia Clarkson

as Rebecca Corbett and Andre Brower as Dean Beke. The film also finds ways to dramatize and humanize

Weinstein's victims who ranged from young assistants to major stars including Ashley Judd,

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