Yanis Varoufakis on Brexit, Keir Starmer, Assange, Melenchon, Ukraine and Paul Mason
The Owen Jones Podcast
Owen Jones
4.4 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 20 June 2022
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
Yanis Varoufakis - former Greek finance minister, economist and politician - is one the great intellectual superstars of the left. We have a lot to talk about: Britain's deporting of refugees to Rwanda, how Boris Johnson's 'oven-cooked' Brexit deal is unravelling, Keir Starmer's dishonest leadership of the Labour party, the political situation in Spain, the revival of the French left, how the horror of the Ukraine war can end, the extradition of Julian Assange, and the controversy involving British journalist Paul Mason.
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| 0:00.0 | What a pleasure, as ever, to see you. |
| 0:10.0 | Pleasure is all my own, it's good to see you. |
| 0:14.0 | Good to see you. |
| 0:15.0 | Good to see you. |
| 0:16.0 | I'm in, indeed, Conrad. |
| 0:17.0 | I'm in Tenerife, you're in your, I'm not on holiday just before everyone starts yelling |
| 0:21.0 | at me. |
| 0:22.0 | You're in your parliamentary office, of course, you are amongst many other things, an elected |
| 0:26.0 | member of Parliament in Greece. |
| 0:29.0 | I just want to start, actually, with something which people are obviously talking about |
| 0:33.0 | a lot in Britain at the moment. |
| 0:34.0 | And this is the conservative policy of deporting asylum seekers to Rwanda, which is a very |
| 0:41.0 | poor country with a terrible human rights record in Africa. |
| 0:45.0 | Now, there were several asylum seekers going to be deported. |
| 0:50.0 | It ended up being narrowed down, there were huge campaigns, legal challenges. |
| 0:54.0 | Again, the European Court of Human Rights Institute. |
| 0:56.0 | I just want your thoughts, your comments on the policy, what it represents, what you think |
| 1:00.0 | the government wants their strategy. |
| 1:03.0 | And you said you're very proud of the European Court of Human Rights decisions. |
| 1:06.0 | So I just want to hear your thoughts on those things. |
| 1:09.0 | Well, on a personal note, |
| 1:14.0 | awfulness, hideousness, seems to be following me around. |
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