Peter Hitchens on why Boris Johnson leads "a hard left government", English independence and Ukraine
The Owen Jones Podcast
Owen Jones
4.4 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 23 June 2022
⏱️ 76 minutes
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Summary
It's another blockbuster interview with Peter Hitchens - this is the best one yet - and we have a lot to cover. What does Boris Johnson stand for, and is he really 'hard left'? How does he think "the traditional family" can be saved? Why would a more punitive justice system work? Why was New Labour "the most radical government" since Oliver Cromwell? Why does he support English independence? And - above all else - why does he think Russia's war on Ukraine was provoked?
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| 0:20.3 | So Peter, I first interviewed you seven years ago, |
| 0:22.9 | which feels like a different historical era, frankly. |
| 0:27.1 | Quite a lot has happened since then. |
| 0:28.8 | But I remember, I think I started that by asking |
| 0:32.1 | your views, kind of, to sketch your opinions |
| 0:35.7 | on the pre-eminent politicians. |
| 0:37.1 | At the time, that was still David Cameron and George Osborne. |
| 0:40.0 | And that's not a boy's job, the same. |
| 0:42.1 | I mean, just in your thoughts on his, |
| 0:44.3 | what's not with his moral character? |
| 0:48.8 | I don't think he claimed to have what. |
| 0:54.6 | I mean, I have met him a bit when he was |
| 0:57.3 | a sort of a spectator. |
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