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Express Yourself Black Man

XYBM Clips: Staying hurt is a choice

Express Yourself Black Man

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Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Mental Health

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🗓️ 18 March 2026

⏱️ 9 minutes

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If you want to listen to the full episode (XYBM 152) from this clip, search for the title: "Ep. 152: The Invisible Battle Black Men Fight Daily with Matt Capone" — it was released on March 9, 2026.

In XYBM 152, we sit down with Matt Capone, known for his savvy wordplay, outgoing personality, and captivating stage presence. Matt opens up about several recent losses—friends, a godbrother, and his 90-year-old grandmother—while balancing entrepreneurship, fatherhood, and grief. He also shares how poetry helps him reflect, recounts his time in prison and anger management, and speaks about the trauma from a past sexual relationship.
    
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Being hurt is filling the emotions from that, right?

0:06.0

But you could do something about being hurt.

0:08.0

Deciding to stay hurt is a whole different thing.

0:11.0

Okay.

0:12.0

Right. Somebody might be in a relationship and, oh, I got cheated on.

0:15.0

So now since I got cheated on, everybody after this person,

0:19.0

I'm going to hurt because I'm hurt. You're deciding to stay hurt. You're making it a choice. You're making a decision to be hurt. It doesn't matter what happens. Being hurt, it's like, all right, look, I notice that I'm hurt, I see that I'm hurt, I'm going to do something about it. So what I'm saying? So it's definitely a difference in the two, you feel me? And I don't think I break that bar unless I go through that myself. You know what I'm saying? I made that decision, like I said when I first got my heart broken. All right, Bousie said it in the song, got my heart broken at 13. That was way, way back. You know what I'm saying? Now every woman after that man, a straight payback. I felt like I had that mentality for so long. You saw what I'm saying? I know every woman after that man, a straight payback. I felt like I had that mentality for so long.

0:55.7

You saw what I'm saying?

0:57.3

So I was choosing to stay hurt.

1:00.9

Yeah.

1:01.2

I was choosing that.

1:02.0

Even if I didn't recognize, like, at that age, it's like, oh, well, this is what you're

1:06.4

doing.

1:06.8

I'm choosing my, every, I don't even care.

1:09.0

Every girl that I talk to, I'm a dog. Yeah. You feel me? But the older I got and I started, I realized you can't treat people like this. You can't talk to people like this. And I believe in karma. So the very things that you despise in a relationship is going to come back to you because you're doing it to other people. Yeah. So it was like, nah, you can't do nothing. You can't do nothing. You can't keep doing the same thing. Yeah, yeah. If you want different results. So you know what? You got to do something about being hurt. Was there ever a moment for you that you were like, yo, nah, I got to chill? Like was there a moment that that made you have that realization or was it just kind of it came over time?

1:47.4

Oh, when I got to chill. Like, was there a moment that

1:44.3

that made you have that realization or was it just kind of, it came over time? Oh, when I was locked up. Oh, when you were locked up, okay. Like when you had time to like think? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Um, I did six months in the hole. So you made just six months in a hole, you by yourself. you start thinking about every relationship, every woman you ever talk to, family member, your kids, the person you interact with at Footlocker, when you're going to get, you think about the whole life stuff. You ain't thinking in there, you're going to go great. Yeah. I don't even care if you're planning this, what I'm going to do, A, B, C, D, you create your own vision board in your head. You know what I'm saying? You spend that much time by yourself and you only get one hour out with your sale for six months. You feel what I'm saying? It's like, yeah, I was like, nah, bro. Wilder. Yeah. The people that knew me when I was in my early 20s, I know I was a, I was a firecracker.

2:37.4

They're maddened in the winter. I was like, nah, bro, violent. Yeah. And the people that knew me when I was in my early 20s, I know I was a, I was a firecracker.

2:37.4

They're maddened and the women.

2:38.9

Men couldn't say nothing to me. Couldn't say nothing to me. So it was like, no, you can't talk to people like that, bro. Yeah. That's why, like, you're probably in this situation based off of not only the way you treat people but things

2:52.5

that you've done that you never got caught for you know what I'm saying the conversation that

2:57.2

you have with people that you never got checked for so now you're right here and now you got

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