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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

XXL Freshman Class, and What Happened With Lizzo? Plus, the Last Gasp of Trumpism

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.711.6K Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2026

⏱️ 125 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel kick off the podcast with a follow-up discussion about Jasmine Crockett and James Talarico before digging into a pair of music industry topics. Plus, an awkward interaction during ESPN’s NBA draft coverage, and was A$AP Rocky disrespectful with the stuff he said during a performance? (0:00) Intro (0:17) A Crockett-Talarico recap (59:46) XXL Freshman Class: Auntie Rach vs. Baby Jade (1:08:55) Lizzo’s new album sales (1:24:03) Jokes about the Jay Williams accident (1:31:07) Was A$AP Rocky being disrespectful? (1:37:57) Is the GOP out of patience with Trump? (1:49:20) Black male suicide rates Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett The Ringer is committed to responsible trading. Please visit https://fanduel.com/predicts to learn more about the resources and helpline Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Let's do this.

0:09.3

Yo, ya, yo, Thor Warriors.

0:12.0

What is up?

0:13.0

Higher learning is on and Zayvan Lathin Jr.

0:14.7

And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.

0:17.1

This is Rachel Lynn Chechnikov of the

0:22.7

Leninist, Stalinist.

0:25.1

Oh, you like it?

0:26.4

I love Marxist, Rachel.

0:28.9

Put a, Donnie.

0:30.0

This makes me Marxist? That's what people are saying

0:32.9

the other side of it.

0:34.3

Donnie, put a beret.

1:04.7

Put a beret on, I guess it wouldn't be a beret. It wouldn't be a beret because they're calling me, they're saying I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, MAGA. Maga. They're saying, you know, it's so funny because you can't, you can't, you can't, I'm, on this podcast, I'm told that I will, it doesn't matter what, when it's a black woman, I'm there and I will fiercely defend them and, and put down everybody else.

1:09.5

Then when I have a different take, it's, oh my gosh, you'll love it, Van.

1:11.2

She's a bed wench.

1:13.0

They love that one.

1:14.5

She's an Uncle Tom.

1:16.2

Bedwins hit hard, bro.

1:17.4

Bedwins is one of the ones.

1:23.5

It's just, you know, sometimes when things are like so low brow, it's like I can't even give it. I always tell people I'm like, you got to come harder than forehead jokes and she's white jokes. Because I've been doing that shit for years. You gotta, if you want to like really get to me and hurt me, it's got to be some stuff that, like, that's so not true. Well, I mean, the forehead, I do a big forehead. But then it's just like like it doesn't faze me. You gotta come, you gotta be better.

1:45.0

You gotta be more creative.

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