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Xi says: who will succeed him?

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The Economist

News & Politics, News

4.35K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2026

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

A giant leadership reshuffle is underway in China, but one job will stay the same: Xi Jinping is almost certain to secure another five-year term at next year’s party congress. Reasons to be optimistic about Europe’s tech future. And the life of controversial winemaker, Michel Rolland.


Guests and host:

  • James Miles, global China writer
  • Guy Scriven, global business writer
  • Jon Fasman, senior culture correspondent
  • Rosie Blau, co-host of “The Intelligence”
  • Jason Palmer, co-host of “The intelligence”


Topics covered: 

  • Xi Jinping, China, Party Congress
  • Tech, quantum computing
  • Michel Rolland, wine, obituary


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0:00.0

The Economist.

0:10.0

Hello and welcome to the intelligence from The Economist.

0:12.9

I'm Jason Palmer.

0:14.1

And I'm Rosie Bloor.

0:15.6

Every weekday, we provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world.

0:25.4

Thank you. provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world. When the big countries and regions for high tech are mentioned, Europe doesn't often get a look in.

0:31.0

But our correspondent says that is changing, in part because Europe's few early tech winners are now spinning out more and more new ones.

0:40.5

And Michel Roland spent his school holidays riding a tractor and helping with the harvest.

0:45.8

For him, there was no question of doing anything other than spending his life among vineyards.

0:50.9

We remember the life of a master wine connoisseur.

0:58.0

Thank you. vineyards, we remember the life of churn of leadership posts is underway.

1:16.8

Hundreds of thousands of jobs will change hands in this giant reshuffle,

1:21.1

moves that will affect every level except one.

1:25.3

Xi Jinping, China's ruler, is almost certain to hold on to his position, which will be confirmed at next year's pivotal party Congress, all of which means some people are already wondering what might happen a further five years on, by which time Xi Jinping will be 79.

1:57.2

Xi Jinping ripped up the succession rules in 2018 when he revised them to allow himself to be president for life. James Miles is our global China writer.

2:02.4

So coming up to next year's party Congress, the 21st,

2:07.5

we'll be looking for signs as to whether he might actually, in spite of that,

2:14.2

be lining up a successor.

2:17.2

James, for a number of decades, you've been a professional tea leaf reader of the Chinese Communist Party.

2:23.2

What sorts of things are we looking for and just talk us through the process?

2:29.0

Well, we're just at the early stages now of a five-yearly churn of the Chinese leadership. And this is always a very

2:37.7

stressful part of the Chinese political process. A couple of years are spent changing jobs at every

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