Hungary for change? A challenger to Orban
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The Economist
4.3 • 5K Ratings
🗓️ 6 April 2026
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
Viktor Orban, Hungary’s prime minister, is an idol to the global nationalist conservative right. Losing the next election would have far-reaching consequences. Could tourists help boost jaguar populations in South and Central America? And the number of Catholic saints is soaring.
Guests and host:
- Rosie Blau, co-host of “The Intelligence”
- Jason Palmer, co-host of “The intelligence”
- Matt Steinglass, Europe editor
- Ana Lankes, Brazil correspondent
- Catherine Nixey, culture correspondent
Topics covered:
- Hungary, Viktor Orban, Peter Magyar, Fidesz
- Jaguars, climate change
- Saints, Catholic
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| 0:00.0 | The Economist. |
| 0:10.3 | Hello and welcome to the intelligence from The Economist. |
| 0:13.6 | I'm Jason Palmer. |
| 0:14.8 | And I'm Rosie Bloor. |
| 0:16.3 | Every weekday, we provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world. |
| 0:31.3 | In pre-colonial times, the real kings of South and Central America were the Jaguars. Today, |
| 0:37.2 | they're ever more confined to disconnected patches of land. We examine a promising set of policies that might at last halt the loss of the Big Cat's |
| 0:40.1 | range. |
| 0:43.2 | And more saints have been canonized in the past 40 years than in the previous 400. |
| 0:49.7 | Our correspondent explains why the number is climbing towards heaven. |
| 1:17.8 | Thank you. correspondent explains why the number is climbing towards heaven. On a chilly day in late March, I took a train from Budapest down to a small Hungarian city called Haudmejo Vasareli, which is near the border with Serbia. |
| 1:21.7 | Matt Steinglass is our Europe editor. |
| 1:24.3 | I was there to watch a very important man make a speech. |
| 1:29.1 | There were thousands of residents packed into the city's center, which is a beautiful sort of quaint Habsburg-era central square. |
| 1:37.8 | And they were down there to hear the same man, Patri Magyar. |
| 1:43.7 | Peter Magiard is the leader of a center-right political party in Hungary called Tisa. |
| 1:49.0 | There is a general election coming up on April 12th, and Magyar is giving his speech with small variations |
| 1:56.0 | for local towns over and over and over again at four or five rallies every day. |
| 2:04.1 | Magyar's campaign is very social media savvy, and at the beginning of the rally, before he |
| 2:08.3 | showed up, organizers sent a video team up on the stage to prompt the crowd to chant |
| 2:14.3 | Arad Atisa, which means the Tisa will flood. |
| 2:22.3 | That's a pun on the party's name, which refers to the nearby Tisa River, |
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