Book your ticket to happiness with Sun Express Airlines. This is CBSi in the world. I'm John Bachelor with Tanya Bronnegan.

It was eight years reporting for the Guardian in China in that in that time she pursued and captured thoughts about the Red Guard of 1966 to 76

is an irony here, many of whom participants are now senior and are not necessarily going to be with

this long.

So this is the memory of that period, but Tanya also spends time with psychiatrist, psychologist, psychotherapists in a meeting in Shanghai.

And I'm struck by how they regard this as, I wrote down from Dr. Yang. He calls it Maoist hysteria. What does he mean, Tanya?

I think that may have been my phrase rather than his, but it was a time of, it was a time of a convulsion I mean there was something about the Cultural

Revolution itself that was a sort of collective hysteria or collective delusion, you might say.

As I said, there were motives that we would definitely

recognize that will come into any kind of big campaign or movement I suppose people always have their personal

interests grudges ambition all of those things but there was also a level of real belief of fear for the revolution of zealotry that really did

trans fix and grip the country people really believed. Now we come to Dr. really did

fix and grip the country.

People really believed.

Now we come to Dr. Chen, who talks about eating bitterness.

What does that mean?

It's a very common idiom in China.

You come across it a lot, and it really means sort of suffering and getting on with suffering.

Just getting on with it. It's something you'll see in job adverts for example that people will talk about

sort of saying, you know, we want a worker who can eat bitterness. It means we want somebody who's not going to moan and is kind of going to buckle down.

But it's also something that people will quite often talk about with a certain kind of pride.

But it's also of course quite fatalistic because it's the sort of the power of the

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