WTH Do MAGA Republicans Think on Foreign Policy? Roger Zakheim Explains.
What the Hell Is Going On
AEI Podcasts
4.4 • 633 Ratings
🗓️ 18 December 2025
⏱️ 53 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
The Reagan National Defense Survey has again illuminated the MAGA world: MAGA Republicans are not isolationists, nor are the majority of Americans. Despite what those in Washington assert Americans believe, the latest polling reveals that 64 percent of Americans support U.S. leadership on the world stage, with eight in ten self-identified MAGA Republicans driving that figure. So why do we see this dissonance on the Right? Who gets to speak for “America First,” and what does it really mean? Why are figures within Trump’s ranks convincing him that his base opposes intervention and a strong foreign policy? The latest polling reminds us that the American people know who our enemies are, and they are telling us how they want to deal with them. Who’s going to listen?
Roger Zakheim serves as the Washington Director of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute. He previously practiced law at Covington & Burling LLP where he led the firm’s Public Policy and Government Affairs practice group. Before joining Covington, he was General Counsel and Deputy Staff Director of the U.S. House Armed Services Committee. Mr. Zakheim also served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense where he supported the department’s policies and programs related to Iraq and Afghanistan coalition affairs. Mr. Zakheim also currently serves on the Board of Directors of the United States Institute of Peace and is a Commissioner on the Congressional Commission on the National Defense Strategy of the United States.
Read the transcript here.
Subscribe to our Substack here.
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | This podcast is brought to you by the American Enterprise Institute. |
| 0:03.1 | If you like what you hear, please subscribe, rate, review, and share. |
| 0:07.1 | Thanks for listening. Here's our show. |
| 0:08.7 | What the hell is going on? |
| 0:10.5 | What's really going on? |
| 0:12.0 | We said, what the hell happened? |
| 0:13.5 | You don't have to know what the hell is on it. |
| 0:15.6 | They see what's going on. |
| 0:16.7 | I don't know what's going on. |
| 0:18.0 | What is going on? |
| 0:20.0 | We must find out what's going on. What is going on? We must find out what is going on. |
| 0:30.3 | Hi, I'm Daniel Pletka. |
| 0:32.3 | And I'm Mark Tiesen. |
| 0:33.4 | Welcome to our podcast, What the Hell is going on? Mega edition. Mark? |
| 0:39.5 | What the hell is going on is we're talking about, once again, the myth of MAGA isolationism. |
| 0:45.5 | So, you know, we've got this divide in Washington between the restrainers or the prioritizers or the |
| 0:52.6 | isolationists and whatever you want to call them. And |
| 0:55.9 | the so-called Reaganite wing of the Republican Party that doesn't know what time it is. And the |
| 1:03.1 | Republican Party has changed. The country has changed. We need to stop focusing so much on all |
| 1:08.8 | this foreign stuff and focus on what's going on at home, |
| 1:12.3 | and we don't want to get involved in helping allies around the world or defending other countries. |
| 1:18.2 | We just want to focus on America, is what the neo-isolationist right is saying. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from AEI Podcasts, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of AEI Podcasts and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

