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Some Place Under Neith

WTF LDS Episode 36: DezNat on DeezNutz

Some Place Under Neith

The Last Podcast Network

True Crime, Comedy

4.5979 Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

We discuss the white nationalist movements in the Pacific Northwest and how they have come into contact with the Saints so often. Know of a missing woman's case that needs attention? Contact us at someplaceunderneith@gmail.com. Some Place Under Neith produced and edited by Adam Wirtz and Last Podcast Network. Artwork by Kevin Conor Keller, intro song "Subway" by Lunachicks, remixed by Devin Castaldi-Micca. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to ad-free new episodes.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Content warning for discussions of extremist racism.

0:09.0

Some place underneath. I'm so much I'm so much White supremacist ideology, if left unchecked, always ends in violence.

0:48.7

It's violence Idahoans have seen far too much of in the past few months and years.

0:54.0

Tony McAlear knows all too well who might

0:56.7

be recruited to violent extremist groups. He's the author of the book, The Cure for Hate, and helps

1:02.4

communities respond to the threat of violent white supremacist groups, groups he was once a part of.

1:08.9

Most people think it's the ideology that draws people in.

1:12.2

But the ideology is really, and research is shown,

1:14.6

the ideology is really secondary.

1:17.2

So if that is secondary, what's the primary reason for people to join these hate groups?

1:23.3

Well, McLeer says people are looking for acceptance.

1:26.9

If you think about the loneliness and the despair and the craving for community and belonging and acceptance, very, very powerful.

1:37.3

Which is why the U.S. Attorney for the District of Idaho, Josh Hurwitt, says isolation is one of the big red flags that someone you may know is being radicalized.

1:47.5

Everyone should look out for their family members, their colleagues, their coworkers.

1:52.8

If you're seeing a change of behavior or a withdrawal from sort of what we'd consider normal society,

2:00.2

and see what might be possible in a safe way to try to get that person the support that they might need. Man, I feel really bad for these guys. I know they're horrible, like, white nationalists, but, you know. I thought you were being sarcastic. No, like, think about just sitting alone and, like, maybe you don't get along with your family. You don't have anybody in your town that gets you. And then you just go log in on

2:21.0

the internet and they're like, it's actually everybody else's fault. And you're like, all right. And

2:25.1

then next thing you know, you're committing a hate crime. You know, I think that there's really

2:31.1

some worth in being compassionate towards them.

2:35.5

I struggle with that.

2:37.0

And I know you do too.

2:37.8

You get very angry.

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