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🗓️ 16 March 2021
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It’s bad enough Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, the Arizona Democrat, turned down the minimum wage hike with that oh-so-cute thumbs down. Now she’s threatening to derail the whole Democratic agenda, insisting on archaic Senate rules that give Mitch McConnell and the Republicans outsized power.
“I think is a lot of people feel that this groovy, bisexual Senator should be voting in a groovy way and not like a terrifying conservative,” Molly Jong-Fast says on the latest episode of The New Abnormal.
“Do you see a world in which Democrats can get her on board for filibuster reform?” she asks Senate veteran Adam Jentleson.
“I definitely think that,” Jentleson answers. “I think she's miscalculated a little bit. I don't think she can afford to be out as far to the right as she is right now. Even [centrist West Virginia Sen. Joe] Manchin has started to shift a little bit. And so she's kind of out on a limb.”
“Joe Manchin can say, I am the only Democrat who can hold this sea, it's me or a Republican… and that's valid,” Jentleson adds. “He's generally a pretty reliable vote for most of the things we want to pass. He can be very frustrating, but it's literally him or a Republican… Sinema cannot say that she's the only Democrat who can hold that seat. There are other credible Democrats who could run in a primary and win the general election.”
Sinema’s fellow Democrat, Sen. Mark Kelly, is up for reelection in just two years. “For him to win, he needs to accomplish a lot of things. He needs to be able to go to voters and say, here's what we did,” Jentleson adds. “And so I don't think that Sinema can, can tell Mark Kelly to go jump off a bridge... It's just untenable to say, ‘I'm going to stand in the way of all the things that Democrats want to do because of my love for the filibuster’ in a purple state. I don't think this is a long-term sustainable position.”
Then, former Stockton, California mayor Michael Tubbs talks about his push for universal basic income. And The Daily Beast’s Diana Falzone takes us inside Fox News, as staffers there lose their minds in the face of a challenge from an even crazier conservative network. “They’ve dug in their heels. And now they're going to give the viewers what they want, which is this red meat of cancel culture of Dr. Seuss of Mr. Potato Head,” she tells Jong-Fast. “Things will get even more, as the staffers say at Fox news, ‘Foxifized,’ which is the war on Christmas, the war on men. There’s always a war going on.”
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0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Molly Johnfast and welcome to the Daily Beast's Venue Abnormal. I'm a |
0:05.8 | left-wing pendant and an editor at large at the Daily Beast. We're here to have |
0:10.7 | fun, sharp conversations with some of the smartest people in media, politics, |
0:16.4 | and science that help make what's happening in the country and the world |
0:20.4 | clearer. Our world has been turned upside down. On the new abnormal we'll talk |
0:26.2 | about the people who got us into this mess and figure out how we get ourselves |
0:30.8 | out of it. And I'm producer Jesse Cannon and I'm here to make sure everything |
0:34.6 | doesn't go too far off the rails while we have fun discussions about our world |
0:39.0 | gone mad. And why take that duty seriously? Ourself's not so much. On today's |
0:44.8 | episode we're so excited to talk to former Stockton, California mayor Michael |
0:49.5 | Tubbs. He's going to tell us all about how UBI actually affected his city and |
0:54.3 | the unexpected outcomes from it. And then we're going to talk to Diana Falzone |
0:58.4 | about Newsmax, it Fox News, and how bad it's going over there. You of course |
1:03.8 | know him as the author of Kill Switch, the rise of the modern Senate and the |
1:07.4 | crippling of American democracy and a former deputy chief of staff to former |
1:11.7 | majority leader in the Senate Harry Reid. And today he's going to talk to us |
1:15.4 | about what else the filibuster as well as how Dems can lead on issues. Hi Adam. |
1:21.6 | Hi Molly. Welcome back to the New of Normal. Thank you. It's great to be back. |
1:27.0 | We're so excited to have you because all roads lead to the filibuster. Yes they do. |
1:33.6 | It's funny we had you on maybe like two months ago or maybe two years ago |
1:39.7 | because time has no meaning. Was it two months ago? Was it six months ago? |
1:43.5 | January, yes. So January that was five years ago. So that makes sense. And during |
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