Hey, all, Mark Vesente here. Just a quick note to let you know I've started a new podcast and

YouTube channel. Don't worry, WTF is on my mind is not going anywhere. The new podcast is called

Remember Your Greatness, and it's going to cover more of the good stuff in life, growth, authenticity,

courage, creativity, autonomy, spirituality, the embodied kind, not the delusional kind,

what I've learned from mentoring people and the big questions of life.

There are two episodes up so far, and in the second episode, I do something I've never done

before. I get a very public coaching session from someone I admire

to help me with my fears about this new venture. It's a deeply vulnerable and powerful exploration.

So go check it out if you'd like. I'm going to put the details of this new podcast and channel

on the show notes. If you're interested, join me over there, or you can just stay here in

WTF, or even

better both. All right, let's get into this episode. My name is Mark Vesente. I'm a director,

producer, writer, and troublemaker. I'm most known as the director of the film What the Bleep Do We

Know, and as one of the Nixon whistleblowers featured in the HBO series, The series Aval. Let's just say I know a thing or two about cults. I don't consider myself a cult expert,

but I'm definitely an expert in being screwed over, waking up, and knowing how to spot them.

And let me tell you, they're everywhere. My mission is to help people see patterns of abuse across multiple contexts.

From personal to family, to group, to societal, it's all the same pattern at every scale.

As you'll hear, I have a pretty salty approach to most things. So there might be some

blasphemy. One or two sacred cows might get knocked over, and there'll likely be some foul language you never

quite know what you're going to get because it really does depend on what the fuck is on my mind

all right ladies and gentlemen welcome back today i have mr richard granon with me why do you always

have richard on mark i'm glad you asked. There are two reasons.

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