Welcome to Wire Talk with Karen Stubbs, a podcast designed to encourage and to quit moms by answering your questions about motherhood, hopefully helping you maintain your faithfulness to God, while experiencing a peaceful life on your journey.

Here's your host, Sunny Williams.

Hi, I'm Sunny Williams. I've been married to John for 14 years and we have two kids, Dora who will soon be 12 and

Bobby who is six years old and we live in Coming Georgia.

So I was a theater major in college, we won't say how many decades ago that was.

But since then I have been a professional actor and director and video producer.

At one point I went to work for North Point Ministries in their service programming division

and that's when I met Karen as just an acquaintance on staff but after I had my daughter

Dora I was invited to the basement for one of Karen's first groups and during that time I

really started to connect with Karen because I needed some help because I did not know what I was doing with this child. with

because I needed some help because I did not know what I was doing with this child. I think that

Karen is a phenomenal mentor and so she clearly raised four children and they're all

lovely human beings and I really would like for my child, both my children to be lovely human beings.

And so it was just great to have this person who had already gone through all of this that

we could go to and ask questions and never be made to

feel stupid or to feel like we were being judged for any of the ridiculous choices we may have made at the time but Karen just made her

basement and made what is now birds on a wire just a comfortable no judgment zone

where you could come and just as she says get encouraged and get

equipped to continue on this journey of motherhood. I am so excited about being

involved with Wire Talk because one I think we tend to feel very isolated

and as moms we need all the help that we can get I am a firm believer in it takes a village

and me personally we don't have family close by so we rely on our

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