Welcome to Wire Talk with Karen Stubbs, a podcast designed to encourage and to

quit moms by answering your questions about motherhood, hopefully helping you

maintain your faithfulness to God while experiencing a peaceful life on your

journey.

Here's your host, Sunny Williams.

Hi everyone, my name is Sunny Williams.

I'm a wife and a mom of two. I have an 11 year old girl in middle school and a six year old little boy in kindergarten.

And it is my pleasure to be here with you today to host Wire Talk with Karen Stubbs.

And Karen's right here with me. Hey, how are you Sunny? I'm doing good.

That's awesome. Hey for our friends who are new to our podcast and Two Birds and A Wire, would you tell them a little bit about yourself and about the ministry?

I would love to. Well, first off, welcome, if you're new, we're so excited you've joined in our little

Wire Talk adventure, but I am a mother of four my children are grown ages 26 all the way down to 18 I have

three girls and a boy and I'm married to Greg coming up on our 30-year anniversary

if you can even believe that.

That is awesome.

It's crazy that I'm even that old.

But I started Birds on a Wire to equip and encourage moms

and we just felt like this podcast would be a great way to do just that.

I happen to agree. I think it's going very well thus far.

You just said that you're going on 30 years of marriage and that your children are all grown.

Yes. Which gives me great hope for our topic today.

Absolutely because the topic is will we ever survive the toddler years? Well clearly you're still here. I'm still

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