Writing
Overthink
Ellie Anderson, Ph.D. and David Peña-Guzmán, Ph.D.
4.7 • 549 Ratings
🗓️ 28 January 2025
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
You might want to jot down some notes on this one! In episode 122, Ellie and David explore where writing began, the value of writing, and our reasons for writing. Is the widespread use of generative AI technologies, such as ChatGPT, a threat to creative and academic writing? How did writing originate in cuneiform, and how does Derrida's deconstruction of logocentrism encourage us to reconsider the privileging of speech over writing? Listen to it all write here, write now! Plus, in the bonus, they get into some of our most pernicious myths and misconceptions about writing. They talk about the tortured writer trope, the solitary nature of writing, and the connection of writing to class.
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Works Discussed:
David Abram, The Spell of the Sensuous
Geoffrey Bennington and Jacques Derrida, Jacques Derrida
Jacques Derrida, “Freud and the Scene of Writing”
Jacques Derrida, Of Grammatology
Jacques Derrida, “Signature Event Context”
Jacques Derrida, Structure, Sign, and Play in the Discourse of the Human Sciences
Joan Didion, “Why I write”
Walter Ong, Orality and Literacy
George Orwell, “Why I write”
Plato, The Phaedrus
Alva Noë, The Entanglement, How Art and Philosophy Make Us Who We Are
Peter Salmon, An Event, Perhaps: A Biography of Jacques Derrida
Andrew Robinson, The Story of Writing
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Overthink. |
| 0:17.1 | The podcast where two philosophers, professors, friends, and writers talk about what our discipline |
| 0:22.0 | has to offer all number of discussion topics. |
| 0:25.6 | I'm David Pena Guzman. |
| 0:27.3 | And I'm Ellie Anderson. |
| 0:29.8 | For centuries, writing, especially essay writing, has been a key feature of Western educational |
| 0:35.9 | systems. |
| 0:37.2 | Students are asked what they think about |
| 0:39.0 | a particular topic, right? And then they write about it in an essay. But a lot of people in our |
| 0:44.1 | profession these days worry that this is going away thanks to a new technology, chat GPT. |
| 0:51.1 | I've been seeing op-eds like the end of the essay. forums where professors talk to each |
| 0:55.3 | other about best teaching methods are worrying a lot about the future of essay writing in classes. |
| 1:00.7 | And this is coming from the fact that the new technology of chat GBT is leading many students |
| 1:06.9 | simply not to do one of the things that schools are meant to teach them to do, which is |
| 1:12.6 | right. And for those who work in education, the problem is really difficult to navigate, |
| 1:18.3 | because on the one hand, we obviously want to give students all the tools and resources that |
| 1:22.5 | they might need to succeed. And that could include teaching them how to use these generative AI technologies |
| 1:28.7 | that write for them. On the other hand, we're also noticing a very clear breakdown in the |
| 1:36.2 | expectations that teachers and students bring to the classroom, where teachers expect students |
| 1:41.5 | to write. But nowadays, more and more, students expect not to have to |
| 1:46.5 | write their own thoughts because now they have this very tempting technology at their fingertips. |
| 1:51.5 | Yeah, absolutely. And I think that means a breakdown of trust, right? Where it's really hard to |
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