Whatever it was, it was like the idea to event was six weeks and I made $40,000 in profit or something like that.

And I didn't spend a cent of him marketing and it was all through these sales emails that I was sending people.

I feel like I could rule the world and I know I could be what I want to put my all in it like no days.

I'm on a road. Let's travel never looking back.

So right now in the podcast we have Neville, Madora. I've known Neville for 10 years now, maybe eight years now.

I was a, I don't know if you know the story, Ben. I was a fan of Neville, so I read his blog and I was 22 at the time.

And he wrote about copywriting and I was like, man copywriting is amazing. I got to meet this guy.

And at the time he was charging for what he called the, it was called a consult, like an hour long consultation.

And I didn't have any money. I couldn't afford it, but I bought his course and I was like, I got to get to know this guy more.

So I go, hey, I'm hosting an event in San Francisco. Do you want to speak there? I'll arrange all combinations and travel.

And he goes, yeah, man. And so I bought him a ticket on Southwest for like 250 bucks.

And his accommodation was I just let him sleep in my bed and I just slept on the couch.

And the event, I think the event wasn't the event like just like 30 people.

All right, quick back to tell you about another podcast that we're interested in right now.

HuffSpot just launched a Shark Tank rewatch podcast called Another Bite.

Every week the host relived the latest and greatest pitches from Shark Tank from Squatipoddie to the Mention a Bench to Ring Doorbell.

And they break down why these pitches were winners or losers.

And each company's go to market strategy branding pricing, valuation, everything.

Basically all the things you want to know about how to survive the tank and scale your company on your own.

If you want to give it a listen, you can find another bite on whatever podcast that you listen to like Apple or Spotify or whatever you're using right now.

All right, back to the show. You originally had like a book club.

That was the first thing. So you were also like when you got there,

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