Would You Wave the Magic Wand?

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

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4.7 • 964 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2021

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

At his talks, the award-winning journalist Mark Lynas often asks his audience to imagine what would happen if we had a magic wand that could solve climate change. Should we wave it? Most people say no. This, he believes, is a real problem for making progress. To deal with climate change, we need to get serious about prioritizing effective solutions over ones that fit the environmentalist narrative of human sin and the need for atonement. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Mark Lynas discuss tribalism in the environmentalist movement, the need for an optimistic account of how societies can deal with the climate crisis, and how to effectively argue for real solutions. A written transcript of this conversation is available on persuasion.community Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: podcast@persuasion.community Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John T. Williams and Rebecca Rashid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	At Barclays, we're here for every goal.
0:06.4	We're here for the Premier League,
0:09.0	and the Barclays Women's Super League.
0:12.0	We're here for the football chance for giving more girls a chance.
0:18.0	We're here for the grassroots and all the muddy boots. From schools to stadiums, we're here for it all.
0:27.6	Barclays, here for every goal. Almost nobody waves the wand and I find that utterly fascinating and it also is useful
0:40.7	information because it tells us there's a lot more going on here than just
0:44.4	the wish to reduce CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere or stop burning fossil fuels.
0:50.1	And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.
0:52.8	We are at a very strange moment in this pandemic. It is raging worse than ever in many parts of the world. What is happening
1:07.5	at this point in Brazil and India and other countries is truly tragic.
1:27.0	At the same time, there are some countries including the United Kingdom and the United States and hopefully soon large parts of Europe in which a large percentage of the population has been fully vaccinated. And people who have been fully vaccinated are very unlikely to spread the virus to others
1:37.2	and they are very unlikely to get seriously sick
1:41.4	from COVID-19.
1:44.0	As those of you who have been listening to this podcast for a long time know,
1:48.0	I was one of the loud and proud advocates of very ambitious containment measures.
1:55.0	I wrote an article in the Atlantic to which my editors gave the title
2:00.0	cancel everything which was trending on Twitter.
2:04.0	I'm somebody who takes this pandemic seriously
2:08.0	because I believe in the sanctity of human life
2:11.0	and the dangers posed by this virus. But all of the safety measures that we've been
2:17.0	taking for the last 14 or 15 months were not to prove our superior moral virtue. They were not because wearing a mask or being reluctant to hug friends is somehow a
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