Would you tell your BFF about your credit card debt?
This Is Uncomfortable
Marketplace
4.6 • 3.6K Ratings
🗓️ 16 April 2026
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
Would you feel comfortable telling your best friend how much debt you’re in? That was the last thing Jamie Feldman wanted to do, but when her credit card debt spiraled out of control, she knew she needed help. Together, Jamie and Rachel Webster tackled that debt and documented the process with their award-winning podcast “Debt Heads.”
Reema is joined by Jamie and Rachel to talk about friendship, shame and how opening up about money changed their relationship with debt.
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| 0:00.0 | I definitely didn't want to tell her. |
| 0:03.1 | I didn't want to tell anyone, but I had a breaking point. |
| 0:05.7 | I was like, I really don't know what to do. |
| 0:07.5 | And it sort of just blurted out one day when we were on a walk. |
| 0:11.1 | And I was like, I need help. |
| 0:12.3 | I cannot do this anymore. |
| 0:14.3 | I'm pretending. |
| 0:15.4 | And it just sort of all fell apart from there. |
| 0:21.1 | I'm Rie McGreys, and welcome to This Is Uncomfortable, a weekly podcast from Marketplace about |
| 0:25.7 | life and how money messes with it. |
| 0:28.5 | Over the years, I've talked with a lot of people about their debt, student loans, medical |
| 0:32.8 | bills, credit cards, and the emotion that always seems to come up is shame. Shame that keeps people |
| 0:39.2 | quiet, makes them hide their balances and avoid conversations, which in some cases only |
| 0:44.1 | makes the problem worse. This week, I'm talking with two best friends about what happened |
| 0:48.8 | once they decided to confront their debt together. |
| 0:59.0 | After keeping her debt a secret for years, |
| 1:01.6 | Jamie Feldman told her best friend Rachel Webster, |
| 1:04.1 | she'd racked up an impressive amount of credit card debt. |
| 1:08.4 | And that confession turned into a long series of honest conversations about money. |
| 1:11.3 | And eventually, they turned those conversations into a podcast called Debt Heads. Welcome to Debtheads. Welcome. Debtheads is an investigation into the American |
| 1:17.6 | economy from the perspective of people in debt. Like us. Like everybody. I'm Jamie. And I'm Rachel. |
| 1:23.5 | And we named this podcast after ourselves. Because we know firsthand what it's like to lose sleep over debt. |
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