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This Is Uncomfortable

What it costs to leave the U.S.

This Is Uncomfortable

Marketplace

Business, News

4.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

As the U.S. immigration crackdown intensifies, some undocumented people are choosing to leave the country. But what’s the financial and emotional cost of leaving?


Reema speaks with immigration lawyer Michael Foote, who is helping his clients navigate this process, as well as two undocumented immigrants at different stages in their departure: Javi (not his real name) is an undocumented college student saving up to move abroad, and Monsy Hernandez left the U.S. for Germany almost ten years ago and now supports others weighing the same decision.


If you’re thinking about leaving the U.S., organizations like Onward provide toolkits with resources and information.


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0:00.0

A few weeks ago, I had a conversation with someone I'll call Javi. We're not using his real name because he's undocumented. He's a 24-year-old college student who is born in Mexico, but now lives in California. Javi doesn't have much faith that a path to citizenship is coming. And right now, staying here feels riskier than ever. So lately, he's been thinking about leaving the country. Javi's the only one in his family who's undocumented. His siblings were born in the U.S., and his parents eventually gained legal status. And so, like, that kind of left me out in the dark. It does make me feel like I have to, like, as messed up as it sounds or selfish as it sounds. You kind of have to think about like

0:37.5

finding for yourself, you know, like I have to fight for my future. Yeah, no, that's real.

0:43.7

So how much will it cost you to leave the U.S.? From what I've heard, it's like anywhere

0:48.4

from $15,000 all the way up to like $20,000 or $35,000 or euros.

0:54.7

Javi is hoping to move somewhere in Europe.

0:56.7

Some countries there offer special visas for job seekers that give people between six

1:00.4

months and a year to find work.

1:02.2

But applicants have to show that they can support themselves during that time,

1:05.5

which means that if Javi wants to move to Europe, he'll need to save up to a year's worth

1:09.2

of living expenses.

1:11.7

But he says he's also open to moving back to Mexico. If I were to go back home, even though I would be able to legally

1:16.9

work there, like, it would be nice to have a little cushion, you know, rainy day fund to help prop

1:21.4

me up. How much do you have saved up currently? Right now, I'm still in the early stages. I'm like around three,

1:28.9

two to three thousand. But it's only because right now I'm so, I'm saving up. I'm simultaneously

1:34.2

also trying to finish off my undergrad degree. But I should be done by the end of this year. But

1:39.1

after that, it's going to be like full throttle saving, you know. Yeah. What kind of job do you have

1:43.9

right now? So right now I just work under the table. You saving, you know. Yeah. What kind of job do you have right now?

1:45.3

So right now I just work under the table. You know, I have, I work for a restaurant. And it's, like,

1:52.8

really difficult to find out any other job in this current predicament than I am in. So it sounds like

1:58.1

if money weren't an issue, you would have already left the U.S. Yeah, yeah. If money weren't the issue, then I would have left already. Or if I had my degree already as well, then I probably would have left already. That's why you find a lot of people say like it feels kind of like a golden cage, you know, where there's a lot of opportunities, but you can't really take full advantage of them, and they feel kind of trapped here.

2:19.7

So it sounds like you're making that living abroad will be a better life than here in the U.S.

2:24.8

Yeah, so I think some people think too much about the financial aspect of it in terms of like, oh, like, I'm not going to be making as much money.

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