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Coffee House Shots

Would strike talks be different under Labour?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

Politics, Daily News, News

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2024

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

As junior doctors begin the longest strike in history, Lucy Dunn speaks to Isabel Hardman and Kate Andrews about whether public support for industrial action is starting to wane, and how talks might be different under Labour. 

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0:00.0

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0:03.6

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0:13.3

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0:15.3

Hello and welcome to coffeehouse shots.

0:20.4

My name's Lucy Dunn and I'm joined today by Kate Andrews and Isabel Hardman.

0:24.0

Today we're going to be talking about the unprecedented 60 walkout by NHS junior doctors in England.

0:30.0

Isabelle can you tell us a little bit more about how we've got to the point that we're at?

0:34.0

Gosh I mean that would be a podcast that could take several hours in and of itself because it's been a very long

0:48.4

protracted dispute and those caught in the middle so NHS providers essentially and obviously patients feel as though there have been a number of opportunities missed and wasted by both sides

0:56.3

and along this way. There were a number of opportunities where the government could have folded and pushed for a reasonable pay

1:06.3

deal with the BMA, the BMA Junior Doctors Committee has also been particularly recalcitrant even for the BMA Junior Doctors Committee,

1:18.0

which is the most militant bit of a very difficult to deal with Trade Union.

1:24.0

Where we've got to now, despite there being hopes that a new health secretary, Victoria

1:28.9

Atkins might be able to reset things, given there have been a breakdown of relations between the

1:35.8

BMA and Steve Barclay the previous health secretary and although I have to say I think to be

1:42.0

fair to Steve Barcl, that was largely because number 10 was not giving him any opportunity to really do anything or any sort of wiggle room at all in the talks he was trying to pursue but the hoped for a reset as a result

1:56.8

of Atkins's appointment has not come indeed she's said a number of things that

2:02.1

have inflamed tensions further with the BMA such as describing

2:06.8

junior doctors as what she prefers to call doctors in training. Now Lucy you are a qualified doctor I'm sure you are one of the few people

2:16.7

who does not have a self-esteem that needs to be reasonably well-boied by politicians but there is nothing that annoys doctors more

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