And the promise of drone warfare for states and militaries that use them is this notion of riskless war,

which is to say that we can project power without projecting vulnerability.

The other sort of perspective is the status or approbation that states receive in becoming a card-carrying member of the Armed Networked Dron Club.

Hey, welcome back to the Modern War Institute podcast. I'm John Amble, editorial director at MWI.

And on this episode, we're going to talk

about drones, armed, networked, and unmanned platforms increasingly being used by military forces

around the world. If you go looking for books about drones, chances are you're going to find a lot.

But there's a new book coming out that looks at a really unique aspect of the topic, how these platforms affect

the global order.

In fact, that's the name of the book, Drones and Global Order, Implications of Remote

Warfare for International Society.

It is an edited volume with a fantastic lineup of contributors, and I'm really happy to be

joined on the podcast today by one of the editors, Paul Leshenko.

During the conversation, he touches on everything from why states and non-state actors choose to use armed drones as weapons of war, how that use impacts their international

reputations, questions of law and morality, and ultimately the impact of these weapons,

not just on the character of warfare, but on geopolitics,

balances of power, and more. Before we get to the discussion, a couple quick notes. First, if you

aren't yet following MWI and social media, find us on Twitter, Facebook, or LinkedIn, it is a great

way to stay up to date on all of the new articles, podcast episodes, and research we're publishing

every day. And second, as always, what you hear in this episode are the views of the participants

and don't represent those of West Point, the Army, or any other agency of the U.S. government.

All right, here's my conversation with Pauloshenko. Paul, thank you so much for joining me for this episode of the MWI podcast.

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