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ReThinking

WorkLife: The dangers of identity capitalism with Jia Tolentino

ReThinking

TED

Worklife Podcasts, Adam Grant, Rethinking Podcast, Ted Podcast Adam Grant, Organizational Psychology, Ted Talks, Adam Grant Podcasts, Society & Culture

4.7626 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

In this season of WorkLife, we’re pairing each of our regular episodes with a companion interview to do a deeper dive into the topic. This is the deeper dive for our episode on the case against personal branding. Jia Tolentino is a writer at The New Yorker, screenwriter, and author of Trick Mirror—as a lauded culture critic, she’s a keen observer (and occasional victim) of the pressures we all face to brand ourselves online. Jia and Adam discuss the dark side of self-surveillance, the dangers of identity capitalism, and the routes to greater authenticity.


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Host: Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant | LinkedIn: @adammgrant | Website: adamgrant.net/)

Guest: Jia Tolentino (Instagram: @jiatortellini | Website: jia.blog/


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0:00.0

Sean has had some good ideas over the years.

0:05.0

But using Canva was a really good one.

0:08.0

Sean designed some social posts to promote his friend's car boot sale.

0:13.0

They looked good.

0:15.0

Really, really good.

0:17.0

Next thing he knows, someone came and bought the lot, including the car.

0:24.5

Now Sean doesn't know how he's going to get home.

0:28.0

Thanks, Canva.

0:30.2

Gina's a muncher.

0:32.4

Jackson Nibbler.

0:34.8

Lucy likes to linger.

0:39.7

But not for too long And Harry

0:40.8

Thank you Harry

0:43.1

Macardo is the crunchy biscuit stick

0:45.5

dipped in smooth milk chocolate

0:47.3

And makes other biscuits look so

0:48.8

Ordinary

0:49.7

Macado is deliciously Moorish

0:52.3

However you enjoy it

0:53.5

Make every day more Macardo.

0:56.5

Grab a pack in your local store today.

0:58.5

Find Macardo in the Biscuit Isle.

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