Working With Opponents to Protect & Advance Rights (with Sara Burlingame)

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🗓️ 9 September 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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This week in our ALL Together episode, Liz Macdonald and Michael Soto sit down with Sara Burlingame, former Wyoming state legislator and current Executive Director of Wyoming Equality. Sara shares what it’s like to live and work as an LGBTQ+ advocate in Wyoming, drawing from her experiences in both nonprofit and government spaces. She reflects on the importance of protecting rights, reaching across the aisle, and meeting people where they are to build meaningful bridges. With a background i...

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0:00.0	Hey, welcome back to All Out in the Open. I'm Charlie Bird, and I'm so excited to tell you about this week's episode.
0:05.1	This is an all-together episode where Liz and Michael interview people about building bridges in the community.
0:10.2	And this week, they're joined by Sarah Burlingame. She is the executive director of Equality, Wyoming.
0:15.6	And she shares a lot of the lesson she's learned across decades of experience working with civically and
0:22.3	politically with LGBTQ rights. And it's a great episode and we hope you enjoy it.
0:35.3	All right. So welcome to another episode of All Out in the Open.
0:40.6	We are here today with our friend Sarah Burlingame from Wyoming.
0:45.3	We're so glad that she is here with us.
0:48.3	Our episodes, Michael and I's episodes usually center on building bridges.
0:53.4	And we are talking about investing hope in troubled times
0:58.8	today. So let me tell you just a little bit about Sarah. And then we can start our conversation.
1:05.1	She leads Wyoming Equalities Partners in Expanding LGBTQ Advocacy. She's a former Wyoming State Legislator
1:13.8	representing House District 44 in South Cheyenne. Sarah's background in faith organizing with the
1:20.3	Human Rights Campaign has led to life-changing partnerships with faith communities. Outside of her work,
1:26.2	Sarah is a voracious reader, as well as a dedicated
1:28.9	parent, poet, partner, and sometimes artisan bread baker. Ooh, I'm impressed. So as far as, we've both
1:39.6	gotten to work with you. I mean, Michael, more than me, but I got to meet you, what year was that?
1:44.7	20, I should be able to remember. I mean, too. Yeah, in Washington, D.C. We got to work on marriage equality. We were out
1:52.5	there talking to different legislators and meeting just amazing people who walk in all the different
1:59.2	states and who walk in faith and in LGBTQ advocacy and
2:04.0	everything in between. We also got to attend the, or the press club. Yeah, the National
2:13.5	Press Club luncheon that David Bednar presented at. And that was fascinating and so
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