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This is for me like the Gassamta Kunzvak. This is the total art. This combines like everything I've ever loved about all forms of media, whether it's collage or even fine arts.

And then to convert all of that into creating sound effects, like what an absurd art form.

Welcome back to working. I'm your host, Isaac Butler. And I'm your other host, Karen Han.

Karen, I think this is the first time we've had a guest talk about Gassamta Kunzvak, the Bognarian term for total artwork.

In an interview, I can't believe we've gone years without getting it and you got it. So congratulations.

Thank you. Who wasn't we heard at the top of the episode, busting out every artist's favorite 10 cent German word.

So that was Joanna Feng, a truly prolific and incredibly talented Foley artist whose work you may have heard in projects such as Dickinson.

I'm thinking of ending things, promising young woman, the invisible man and making a murder among many, many others.

I am Toots Jells that you got to talk to a Foley artist. I've been talking about wanting to book a Foley artist forever and for whatever reason just haven't done it.

And you did it. So curse you, Karen Han. Well, as you know, it is my quest on this podcast, too, forever foil you, Isaac.

Yes, I am well aware. And our slate plus listings get a little something extra in there stocking this week, right?

That is correct. So for our slate plus segment this week, Joanna and I talk about her experience working on in the heights and how working on a musical like that is different from working on something more realistic or something that demands more perfect sound matchups.

You'll see what I mean when you listen to the segment. And we also talk about how long she tends to spend on any given project.

Well, I don't know why you would want to miss that. Frankly, do you, Karen? I don't know.

What kind of person would want to miss that? Certainly not you, dear listener. And that's why you, if you have not already, should go and subscribe to slate plus, which you can do at slate.com slash working plus not only will you get bonus segments like that one.

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