As a caregiver, we should all recognize that whether we want it or not, when our patients feel

helpless and dependent, and when they feel least uncertain about trusting us with their care,

they automatically identify with us.

You can't stop that.

That's hardwired in all mammals, I believe.

And your words, your ideas, they become the ideas of the patient.

And that can be very, very powerful because it goes in, as it were, unconsciously.

And those ideas become operative quickly.

Hello, and welcome to pursuing health. I'm Dr. Julie Foucher, family physician and former

CrossFit Games athlete. Here, I bring you information and inspiration to help bridge the gap between

fitness and medicine and support your journey toward your healthiest self. Thank you so much for

joining me. Now let's get started with this week's episode. Welcome back to pursuing health.

I am very excited to be here today with Dr. Steve Berman.

He is the director of the Noetic Medicine Institute at the Andrew Wow Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona.

He's also the author of two award-winning books on Noetic Medicine, Healing, and the End of Worry.

He's a graduate of Northwestern University School of

Medicine and was board certified in and practiced emergency and family medicine. He's also a diplomat

of the American Board of Medical Hypnosis. He teaches noetic medicine or mind medicine around the

world, reminding caregivers that mind matters and that the

words of a caregiver can harm or heal. So thank you so much for joining me today, Steve.

That's a pleasure, Julie. I look forward to. And before we dive in, I would love to give a little bit

of background on how this conversation came to be for listeners. So anyone who's been listening to the podcast

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